re: Why is suicide considered such a bad thing?

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Because it is selfish?

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one of the things about depression is that you're terrified of being a burden to other people. it's one of the reasons why so few people reach out for help and instead put on a front and try to make everything seem OK. They're not thinking rationally. It's also not a decision somebody usually makes in 5 minutes, they've probably been fighting it for years. It's easy in grief and frustration to say that a loved one who did it was a coward or selfish. I used to do the same before I really thought it through. I'm guessing most of the time they're just done with fighting it for so long and lose the fight. One of the things that probably keeps them fighting is considering their loved ones. I tend to withhold judgement on folks now, especially after I lost a uncle I was close to from it. It's hard to imagine the mental anguish somebody has to be going through to do that. Life is probably a living hell for them even if everything looks OK from the outside.

I know this isn't always the case but it's been my experience with it.

It’s the last thing anyone will ever remember about you. Stealing that quote from Yellowstone. That’s the truth.

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In the note CJ made a point of letting his family know that he was not sad or depressed, and he didn't have a terminal disease. He basically said he was done with what he needed to do on this earth and he didn't see a reason to continue.

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He was probably depressed but one common aspect of people that decide to end their life is once they decide, they can be happy as can be. They have their solution to depression and no longer have to worry about it.

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Go to a nursing home and tell me i am wrong.

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My MIL is in assisted living and they play bingo, drink, and take buses to the casino all the time. It’s like living in a fraternity house when you’re 85.

People who look down suicide can't put themselves on other peoples shoes. You don't know what pain people go through each day. And the fact that a person has the conviction to go through to end one's pain by ending's one's consiousness is uneasy for certain people.

If you hear some fricked up situations people are in instead of judging them, you would begin to understand where they come from.

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He basically said he was done with what he needed to do on this earth and he didn't see a reason to continue.

He had two children, both of which are adults and they are productive members of society.

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So he was of zero use to them, no advice or nothing? Did his children have kids?


if I had to guess, he probably had no relationship with his kids, or else it doesn't make sense to say he's not needed any more.

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In the note CJ made a point of letting his family know that he was not sad or depressed

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Just because you say that in a note does not mean it is true.

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Why is suicide considered such a bad thing?

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How do you think his kids feel about it? Grandchildren?

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Did they never find a body?

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That dude is in another country living his best life.

I had a good friend from high school commit suicide about 10 years ago. We'd sort of lost touch after high school but we talked every once in a while.

Last time I talked to him he was doing well. Had a wife and a little girl and 9 months later he was dead. I guess you never know what some people are going through.

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If a person is struggling with life so bad that the only way they see out of that suffering is death, and you want them to keep living through that pain and struggle, maybe you need to reevaluate who is the one actually being selfish?

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Pain and struggle are temporary, death is eternal. That’s why it’s selfish.

If you think that it's selfish you have never felt truly suicidal, which of course is a good thing. But just so you know that is so not true and counter to the real mindset of someone that is suicidal. Either they think their continued existence is a burden to those around them, as in the world would be better off without them, or they are just so literally tortured they are looking for any way out. It may be misguided and or terribly sad, but it's not selfish.