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re: Why is suicide considered such a bad thing?
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:18 pm to SUB
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:18 pm to SUB
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there's no way in hell I'd trade my Father's life for any sum of money.
Of course not. Which means this:
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But as the OP stated, his intentions were more noble than anyone I've heard of who committed suicide...which was to not spend the inheritance he planned to give his kids.
Can’t be true. It’s not noble at all because he didn’t do anything his kids would have wanted him to do. Even if his kids hated him, the best option is to try to repair the relationship, not peace out and try to justify it by throwing money at them.
There is no way around it. If he really wasn’t mentally ill (highly debatable) then it was a crappy thing to do to his family.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:18 pm to geauxkoo
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Nope, not yet. I had the same thought, but unless he had money stashed away somewhere, he isn't still amongst the living.
With all due respect. To not find a body is a huge red flag. Sounds like he just ran off and started a new life elsewhere. fricked up of him either way.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:18 pm to medium rare
Do you think driving impaired is selfish?
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:18 pm to caro81
quote:This comment goes back to the selfish nature of the act. If you don't are about your friends and family, then that's pretty selfish.
well considering youre dead, why would you give shite?
But ultimately, while it IS selfish, the other side of that is people who decide to to that are clearly not acting rationally so it's a mental issue not allowing them to make rational decisions. So while yea, your'e selfish for putting your wife/kids through that, for example, but you also had a mental breakdown to a level where you couldn't make rational decisions.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:19 pm to geauxkoo
It boils down to religious insanity .. How else can you justify deciding for another human being if he/she should live or die ? Each person should have free will to do as they please, without blowing their own brains out or jumping off a building or some other violent traumatic thing that someone else has to find …. Im firmly on the side of legalizing assisted suicide/euthanasia so that someone who lets say finds themselves with a terminal disease or a devastating physical disablilty or major mental health issues can decide FOR THEMSELVES if they want to die.. not what you or me or the Ahole down the street tells them to do … but euthanasia will never be legal in America or lots of other places because religious insanity .
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:20 pm to LSUJML
quote:It's a shitty excuse that IMO makes his note a lot less believable.
I’m sure his kids would have fathered him in their lives
I can’t imagine how the kids feel knowing his did this so they have some cash
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:20 pm to geauxkoo
Leaving a note honestly makes it worse and is cliche. Yes not only did I kill myself, but now I will tell you exactly why I did and why I didn't ever ask for help.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:22 pm to BK Lounge
You really need to just get the frick out of the US. You seem to be the victim type that would light themselves on fire because life isn’t fair.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:22 pm to geauxkoo
Permanent solution to a temporary problem almost every single time.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:26 pm to geauxkoo
I’d never do it because I will be here for my children and family as long as I can breathe.
I live for them. It’s my purpose.
I live for them. It’s my purpose.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:26 pm to medium rare
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If you think that it's selfish you have never felt truly suicidal, which of course is a good thing. But just so you know that is so not true and counter to the real mindset of someone that is suicidal.
The act itself is what’s selfish. The person doing it is clearly in a dark place and doesn’t realize it (and might even be rationalizing to convince themselves it’s a selfless thing to do), but it’s still a selfish act.
I get the pain and despair. But when a person ends theirs, they cause a lot of pain and despair for everyone around them.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:28 pm to patnuh
Uncle is in one and can't speak, walk, basically bed ridden and waiting for death. Others in that place are rolled out in their chairs daily to sit and drool on themselves. Zero dignity living like that.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:30 pm to medium rare
Why do you think driving impaired is selfish? Surely not because of the potential impact on others right?
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:31 pm to Dadren
That does actually make a lot of sense and I don't disagree.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:32 pm to DCtiger1
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You really need to just get the frick out of the US. You seem to be the victim type that would light themselves on fire because life isn’t fair.
Lol i got over the idea that life is somehow “fair” decades ago, Sparky .
This actually has nothing to do with my other grievances against America, which are numerous… Becuase this isnt purely an American phenomena, there are many countries which will never legalize assisted humane suicide becuase , again- (and ill say it louder for the folks in the back)- religious insanity .
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:38 pm to geauxkoo
Being a father who lost a child to suicide I can’t even put in to words the devastation it left behind for our family. It has changed me fundamentally as a person. It’s been over two years and I struggle with it daily. It’s worse than any heartbreak I can describe. Never saw it coming either. There is a huge part of me that is just gone. It has impacted my marriage, relationships, my work just to name a few. I’m a 50 YO man and to this day I can’t watch a show with anything bad happening to a child or certain songs with out having to walk away so I don’t break down in front of my two step daughters and my wife. I will say this, you realize really quickly that most of the bullshite that people get worked or pissed off about just doesn’t matter. Things don’t matter. If you have kids don’t ever take for granted that everything is ok with them. Cherish every moment with them even when you annoy them. No parent should ever have to bury a child.
As far as the situation you described I can’t answer that. It’s not the right way to go is all I can say.
As far as the situation you described I can’t answer that. It’s not the right way to go is all I can say.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:38 pm to BK Lounge
Yes, limiting a private or government entities authority to terminate life is based on “religious insanity”. You also think no one will be able to retire until age 80
Why wait to leave, you should go forth and find a better life elsewhere.
Why wait to leave, you should go forth and find a better life elsewhere.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:39 pm to DCtiger1
I get it but the situations are very different. Someone who is in a dark enough place to end their own life can't possibly be compared with driving while impaired. I also don't buy the OP at all, he was absolutely depressed as hell, one doesn't just kill themself that flippantly.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:41 pm to DCtiger1
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Why wait to leave, you should go forth and find a better life elsewhere.
Oh, i fully intend to, dont you worry ur pretty little head, Sweetie .
But it’s possible to have two different conversations in different threads about different subjects.. Your bringing my views about cost of living, the dating scene, retirement age et al into a thread about suicide makes me wonder if you are able to walk and chew gum at the same time (?)
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