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re: WSJ details what advisors told POTUS before initiating Iran War

Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:01 pm to
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
579 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:01 pm to
Yeah it’s stupid. That’s what the bullets are for.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:02 pm to
Who cares? MIGA!!!
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103945 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:02 pm to
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There's something inherently wrong if starting a limited war with Iran creates "readiness" problems


Especially when you spend 1 trillion a year but Russia can stay in a 6 year war with Ukraine on 85 billion defense budget
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49826 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:04 pm to
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I always wonder who the sources are for pieces like this.

Father Time and Patience.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
3397 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:04 pm to
wall street journal no longer credible, thanks for playing they are never trump.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:05 pm to
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JD


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VP JD Vance advised pursuing negotiations first as less costly and risky, with military action gaining more legitimacy if diplomacy failed.



Failed a long time ago.

Posted by Pedropatterstine
Member since Aug 2026
229 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:07 pm to
You have no idea whether this is even true...probably just another dem fantasy.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:10 pm to
We're 2-3 days away from winning
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91750 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:12 pm to
I'm sure the authors have zero bias in them.



One of the authors books.


The Internationalists: The Fight to Restore American Foreign Policy after Trump


quote:

Rebuilding international trust. Biden assembled an experienced team of policy experts—including Jake Sullivan, Antony Blinken, and Lloyd Austin—tasked with convincing skeptical world leaders that America was back and committed to collaborative diplomacy rather than isolationism.



Lol of course the usual suspects are all on this. This is what you guys are rooting for. Joe Biden foreign policy.


Wonder why he didn't write about Biden's mental decline and the threat to national security that was.
This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 7:19 pm
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
7285 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:22 pm to
Haha!! JD favored negotiations first as lest costly and risky and then military action if negotiations failed. Negotiating with Iran failed a long time ago. How do I know this? Because they never would sign a deal that either clamped down on the pursuing nukes before military action took place. Obama tried to go the opposite direction and they still cheated. Then military action is started. The US and Israel spent about a month blowing Iran to pieces. Trump agrees to a ceasefire. All they had to do is say is come get our enriched uranium. We are saying Uncle. Have they done that yet? No!! Instead they continue being belligerent and defiant shooting at ships in the Strait of Hormuz to this day. The United States is absolutely strangling this regime in Iran both militarily and economically. Yet they still will not say come get this uranium we have no use for it anymore we quit. We just want to survive. If they will not give that uranium up even now after all this then there was never any chance of the US negotiating with them and getting them to stop enriching uranium.

Trump had two choices before him. Either we started a military campaign to get this uranium and replace this regime or just let them have a nuclear weapon. Negotiating with these people to give up pursuing nukes was not a serious option on the table. The fact they still will not give it up even after going through all this pain proves it.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
4390 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:22 pm to
Seems like they were all correct with their analysis of the situation, ALL of them.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
82492 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:38 pm to
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Hell, it’s common sense in this situation.


She was right about Syria too.
This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 8:16 pm
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:46 pm to
I don’t know about all that but they should have just recycled the Venezuela strategy.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
83630 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:55 pm to

By any objective military measure, Iran got its arse kicked.

But so did Vietnam during Tet.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42630 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:55 pm to
Trump ignored Tulsi multiple times now. What is the point of having a director of national intelligence if you're not going to listen to them?
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:00 pm to
I would frick the shite out of tulsi, I’m in my 50s, she’s young to me.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16400 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:09 pm to
I saw another thread earlier that got nuked by the mods that talked about how many US bases and equipment have been destroyed. I thought this was common knowledge, however after seeing the responses I realized that our mainstream news must be not reporting on it and consider how boomer this board is that would explain the surprise. Chat gpt alone will tell you a lot and even if it will always make things as shiny as can be for the US. Here are some excerpts below...

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The best open-source satellite assessment I can find is the Washington Post's analysis of more than 100 satellite images. It identified at least 15 U.S. military bases/sites where Iranian strikes damaged at least 228 individual structures or pieces of military equipment. The damage included:


quote:

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aircraft and hangars
barracks and other buildings
fuel storage
Patriot and THAAD components
radar systems
satellite communications equipment
radomes
command-and-control infrastructure
other vehicles/equipment



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A later BBC assessment expanded the geographical picture to 20 U.S. military sites across Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, Bahrain and Oman.


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Reuters previously reported that Iranian drones had struck CIA facilities in the Gulf, and that U.S. intelligence analysts were investigating whether Russia had provided Iran with targeting assistance or drone technology. ?
Reuters
Reuters' July reporting established at least two CIA facilities that were attacked:
CIA station in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
A secret CIA facility in eastern Iraq
But Reuters also reported that other CIA facilities may have been attacked, without identifying them publicly.


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And today's reporting is even more striking: officials familiar with the damage told NBC that the Iranian campaign caused unprecedented damage to U.S. intelligence facilities and equipment, with intelligence sites across the region suffering serious losses. The reports characterize it as potentially the worst physical damage to U.S. intelligence infrastructure from a hostile attack since the CIA was created.


If you didn't know about the above then you are drowning in a pool of state propaganda and you should broaden your horizons. Also remember that the US only has to report military losses. It will not report cia, cia affiliates, and likely private military contractor losses as well.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
21556 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:12 pm to
Wait, it's been declared a "war"?

When did this happen?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70197 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:13 pm to
MSM has covered Bahrain, and the CIA base thing just came out in the last couple of days, but I don't about know much else. There are about a dozen military, intel, and academic guys who discuss these things on the podcast circuit.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17954 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:15 pm to
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Especially when you spend 1 trillion a year but Russia can stay in a 6 year war with Ukraine on 85 billion defense budget


Quality of life varies greatly between Russia and the US. Russia doesn’t give a rats arse if all their people are poor, as long as they protect the Motherland. We care greatly about our quality of life, and it prevents us from going all in.
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