RollingwiththeTide

I watched that game. I watched 2020. Outside of those 2 games I don’t think Saban really even had to do to much to win. Lane always seemed to screw himself with dumb coaching. Get the popcorn ready. Than game was over 15 mins later. Lane always will lay an egg or two being a dumbass. His immaturity gets in the way and costs him. That’s what he is until he changes that. Changing schools isn’t going to fix that. Lane has to fix that and he can’t because the immaturity is part of what makes him as successful as he has been so far. They only way he will ever make it to the top of the mountain is if all the stars line up type of things. All the major schools have to rebuild or have massive injuries. Outside of that he will trip himself up every year just enough to keep him on the outside looking in at being a truly great coach. He needs a Coach O type year in 2019 or he will never win a damn thing.

I don’t read all of the comment because you lost me. Jimbo Fisher, BK, Fat Josh all have at least one win over a Saban coached Bama team. You are trying to tell me that Kiffin hasn’t had as much if not more talent than all of those coaches. Gus Malzahn made a career out of taking Saban to the wire when Saban played at Auburn. Yet every time Kiffin coached against Saban he got schooled. Hell Gus even beat Saban one year. But pitiful ole talent poor lane was stuck in the Vandy of the SEC West and couldn’t even recruit enough talent to compete. Stop it!! The problem wasn’t the school that kept Kiffin from winning big games and making it to Atlanta at least once. The problem wasn’t talent. It wasn’t lack of fan interest or tradition. The problem was Lane freaking Kiffin getting his shite pushed in by other coaches and keeping him out of games like Atlanta or the playoff.

I’m not sold on Deboer. But when you compare him to Kiffin you can’t help but say he has done more. Kiffin has not been talent poor at Ole Miss. I have named off several average coaches with wins over Saban but this all world Lane Kiffin can’t beat Saban once like BK did and go to Atlanta and get pounded by Georgia? Kiffin can’t even make it to Atlanta over our joke of a coach last season with his best team? LSU fans can make fun of Deboer all they want but he has done things in just 2 years at Bama than Lane has done at Ole Miss with a more established program. By more established I mean not in transition. Year one was chaos when he got there. Kiffin has not had to go through that. Yet this joke of a coach can succeed in ways this all world football guru can’t. He can figure out ways to win against good teams where Kiffin always ends up swallowing the other coaches load. But he is fantastic and Deboer sucks. I don’t get it. It’s delusion at this point. :rolltide: :rolltide:

BK has a win over Saban. Everyone has at least one win over Saban except Lane.

At least making Atlanta one year. That’s the bare minimum any good coach should reach. Yet Lane has never done it and Deboer has but he sucks. How does Lane not suck worse?

I’m just comparing records between two coaches. I can’t help it Lane Sucks because Lane makes life all about Lane.

No. Some of the guys that walked wasn’t replaceable. Ole Miss the last 2 or 3 seasons now had the talent to make a serious run. They weren’t talent poor. Those Jaxon Dart teams and last year’s team had plenty of talent to make Atlanta at least. The problem was the coaching. In more years at Ole Miss Lane did less than Deboer has in just 2 full seasons at Bama. Deboer came in had to save a what he could the first year. Last year he just whiffed the offensive line. If he had got that right Bama would have been in business last year. They would have seriously contended. Deboer whiffed the line but still made it to Atlanta and playoff at Bama within 2 years. I’m not in love with the guy but I will give him his flowers for doing more than Lane has done at Ole Miss.

And what did he do with that QB? Lost 2 or 3 games and allowed the coach y’all are making fun of to go to Atlanta and play Georgia. That is who he is. If Deboer can take Alabama to the SEC title and playoff with the offensive line he had last year then Lane should have been able to do it at Ole Miss at least once in 4,5,6 years.

Dude Coach O and BK have at least either played for or actually won a title conference or national. Lane has not had anything like that at this level of football.

Saban and Kirby could have taken his Ole Miss teams and made an extremely deep playoff run if not won it all. Deboer could have probably even got them to Atlanta one year. Deboer and Kirby are probably the 2 most boring coaches but both of those guys made Atlanta last year and went to absolute war with each other both times. They just coach. No flash or pomp and circumstance. I’m not in love with Deboer but he has done more than Lane.

It doesn’t bother me if fans or the media want to be excited about Kiffin. But do it with some context. Lane doesn’t have a history of achieving great things. Have some prospective. If Lane won the SEC this year it’s the exception and not the rule. He has never been that guy.

Saturday night you would have thought it was Saban back on the sideline at LSU.Lane is the greatest. Everyone was slobbering all over him and he won a game against a bad team. The talk about how great Lane is and what his achievements are is miles apart. Lane is an average coach. That what his record says he is. At least Deboer has an excuse for being average. He just showed up in the SEC and the South 3 years ago. Lane had 2 or 3 years at Bama and then has had a couple of years or so as head coach at Ole Miss. yet somehow Deboer has done more so far. How if Lane is a great coach.

It’s not that I think Lane is a terrible coach. His upside could be sky high. The same thing that makes him as relevant as he has been though is the same thing that holds him back from being extremely elite like Kirby. It’s his immaturity. The noise and chaos that surrounds him keeps him from achieving really great things. He can’t separate it out though. The immaturity makes him relevant but keeps him from really being great.

He has done more than the current LSU head coach. Low bar I know but he has.