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re: WSJ details what advisors told POTUS before initiating Iran War
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:56 am to TerryDawg03
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:56 am to TerryDawg03
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I always wonder who the sources are for pieces like this.
Lately it is this formula:
Slivers of fact + Reporters political view + Reporter's employers political view = Article
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:02 am to MightyJoeYoung
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WSJ details what advisors told POTUS before initiating Iran War
I listened to a Tom Woods podcast a few months ago and his guest went into details about the history of the last several presidents and their advisors about starting a war with Iran.
Basically they all advised it was a trap, the SoH would get compromised, a land assault is nearly impossible without suffering unpopular casualties, and while the Iranian people may despise the IRGC, if we prolong a war and make their lives even more sufferable, they may end up uniting with IRGC to fight against us.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:03 am to Warboo
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That is assuming the article is half way factual. I have my doubts.
If this article was written about Biden , would you believe it?
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:23 am to hogcard1964
"Wait, it's been declared a "war"?
When did this happen?"
You may be technically correct.
People are dead including Americans in uniform.
Normal people consider that a war.
Since it appears you like to be "that guy", here's some free ammo to annoy the people around you with.
Okra, green beans, tomatoes, bell peppers, cucumbers, and squash are not vegetables but indeed are actually fruits.
When did this happen?"
You may be technically correct.
People are dead including Americans in uniform.
Normal people consider that a war.
Since it appears you like to be "that guy", here's some free ammo to annoy the people around you with.
Okra, green beans, tomatoes, bell peppers, cucumbers, and squash are not vegetables but indeed are actually fruits.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:58 am to MightyJoeYoung
IMO President Trump had no choice but to launch strikes against Iran. Iran decided the Straits of Hormuz belonged to them and they intended to control passage through the strait.
Plus, we're now seeing the results of decades of failed democrat attempts to halt Iranian nuclear bomb ambitions. Our pal Barook Hussein Obama (America's first muslim President) and his pal Joe "the Buffoon" Biden went the "give'um what they want, that'll stop'um" approach to dealing with the Iran nuclear threat. As in pallets of cash loaded on C-130's and delivered in the middle of the night. Not to be out done our pal Joe Biden chipped in another 2+ billion dollars.
Money Iran used to buy more centrifuges to produce more enriched uranium from whence weapons grade uranium could be made. My understand being that Iran has refused to comply with the agreement finalized in 2015 (aka JCPOA - Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action) to turn over their enriched uranium. They want that enriched uranium, so they can fashion a bomb.
Have you noticed, Iran has developed hypersonic missile technology (including a shorter distance version) and they used them against Israel. (they used those hypersonic missiles to strike Tel Aviv?) Our pals in the MSM have been shielding the truth about Iran's nuclear and ICBM ambitions from the American electorate. FACT - Iran tested an IRBM (Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile) by firing two at American bases in Europe. Presumably with a HE warhead. One failed in flight, and the other one was shot down by American anti-ballistic missile defense system.
So, to you anti-Trump folks out there remember this. On 9/11/01 Islam declared war on America. Their opening volley included flying passenger jets into the Twin Towers in NYC and the Pentagon. Were it not for the bravery of those passengers on United Airlines Flight 93 those Abdul's most likely would have flown that flight into either the White House or the U.S.Capitol Building.
Repeat after me - Islam is at war with America. As far as America's approach to the Iran threat, we see a trend develop during Obama and Biden era. IMO a three pronged approach. First, maniuplate and exploit America's white guilt to elect a black muslim President. Then let that muslim President provide financial support to various Islamic organizations. Organizations like CAIR and the so-called Arab Spring. (hint: did I fail to mention pump money into Iran's nuclear ambitions?) Augment that by opening up our borders to allow millions of migrants - including muslim migrants. Then watch as the more radicalist muslims run for public office AND win House and Senate seats.
Almost like it was planned that way, eh? Connect the dots, America.
President Trump is right about..........everything.
Plus, we're now seeing the results of decades of failed democrat attempts to halt Iranian nuclear bomb ambitions. Our pal Barook Hussein Obama (America's first muslim President) and his pal Joe "the Buffoon" Biden went the "give'um what they want, that'll stop'um" approach to dealing with the Iran nuclear threat. As in pallets of cash loaded on C-130's and delivered in the middle of the night. Not to be out done our pal Joe Biden chipped in another 2+ billion dollars.
Money Iran used to buy more centrifuges to produce more enriched uranium from whence weapons grade uranium could be made. My understand being that Iran has refused to comply with the agreement finalized in 2015 (aka JCPOA - Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action) to turn over their enriched uranium. They want that enriched uranium, so they can fashion a bomb.
Have you noticed, Iran has developed hypersonic missile technology (including a shorter distance version) and they used them against Israel. (they used those hypersonic missiles to strike Tel Aviv?) Our pals in the MSM have been shielding the truth about Iran's nuclear and ICBM ambitions from the American electorate. FACT - Iran tested an IRBM (Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile) by firing two at American bases in Europe. Presumably with a HE warhead. One failed in flight, and the other one was shot down by American anti-ballistic missile defense system.
So, to you anti-Trump folks out there remember this. On 9/11/01 Islam declared war on America. Their opening volley included flying passenger jets into the Twin Towers in NYC and the Pentagon. Were it not for the bravery of those passengers on United Airlines Flight 93 those Abdul's most likely would have flown that flight into either the White House or the U.S.Capitol Building.
Repeat after me - Islam is at war with America. As far as America's approach to the Iran threat, we see a trend develop during Obama and Biden era. IMO a three pronged approach. First, maniuplate and exploit America's white guilt to elect a black muslim President. Then let that muslim President provide financial support to various Islamic organizations. Organizations like CAIR and the so-called Arab Spring. (hint: did I fail to mention pump money into Iran's nuclear ambitions?) Augment that by opening up our borders to allow millions of migrants - including muslim migrants. Then watch as the more radicalist muslims run for public office AND win House and Senate seats.
Almost like it was planned that way, eh? Connect the dots, America.
President Trump is right about..........everything.
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 10:11 am
Posted on 8/27/26 at 9:15 am to MightyJoeYoung
Trump is a dumb frick and kegsbreath was probably drunk.
Our power comes from the perception of our power.
Gorbachev cited the Chernobyl accident as a major precipitating factor of the fall of the Soviet Union.
History will judge this Iran debacle similarly.
Our power comes from the perception of our power.
Gorbachev cited the Chernobyl accident as a major precipitating factor of the fall of the Soviet Union.
History will judge this Iran debacle similarly.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 9:17 am to MightyJoeYoung
The war is about China.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 10:24 am to hogcard1964
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Wait, it's been declared a "war"? When did this happen?
Seriously?
It’s been 6 months- longer than most wars.
What’s the point of insuring those that have lost their lives by splitting hairs on whether or not this is a war?! Talk about an insult!
It’s certainly a war
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 10:25 am
Posted on 8/27/26 at 10:27 am to SlidellCajun
That's a fluid situation.
It began with "It's not a war." Then, when you point to Pete saying it's a war, you get...
"It's not a new war. It's a 47 year war." Then, when you point out the hypocrisy and absurdity of that, you get...
"It's not a forever war." This is where we are at right now.
It began with "It's not a war." Then, when you point to Pete saying it's a war, you get...
"It's not a new war. It's a 47 year war." Then, when you point out the hypocrisy and absurdity of that, you get...
"It's not a forever war." This is where we are at right now.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 10:45 am to dickkellog
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wall street journal no longer credible, thanks for playing they are never trump.
I was down voted for a similar statement. We're at a point now, thanks to Smith-Mundt, where there are simply zero standards in reporting. "Unnamed sources within the administration" etc. rule the airways, and people desperate to bolster their biases embrace the nonsense as gospel. Brave new world indeed.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 10:59 am to RollingwiththeTide
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Trump had two choices before him. Either we started a military campaign to get this uranium and replace this regime or just let them have a nuclear weapon.
Many here simply can't look past their noses, or headlines for that matter. Many can't envision the world's greatest exporter of terror placing or sailing a nuke into a Christian nation. Can't imagine dirty bomb flying into Germany. Can't see the smiling faces and celebrations in iran after. Couldn't feel stupid and naive after the headlines of horror hit the papers.
Yeah, let's leave iran alone for another 47 years. Hell of a platform.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:14 pm to Bunk Moreland
It’s the typical moving of goal posts that requires a large degree of partisanship of downright ignorance from the public to buy into
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:22 pm to MightyJoeYoung
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When Trump dismissed warnings about complications, Caine (with Hegseth) repeatedly told him the military could handle any problems that arose.
Are there problems we are not handling?
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:32 pm to MightyJoeYoung
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- When Trump dismissed warnings about complications, Caine (with Hegseth) repeatedly told him the military could handle any problems that arose.
And at the first sign of resistance, Hegseth went crying to congress for $1.5 trillion "well it costs money to fight these wars nobody wanted"
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