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re: Why doesn't Russia just destroy Ukraine?
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:05 am to rpg37
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:05 am to rpg37
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Why doesn't Russia just destroy Ukraine?
Because every government is a legitimized mafia operating in cohesion with one another.
The human population is rabblerousing and the tried-and-true methodology for getting people hyper-nationalistic is war. This Ukrainian engagement is perfect for all sides involved, as their own people are less likely to topple their governments during times of economic insecurity and war.
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:05 am to Trumballs
quote:He's alive.
Dude..
Russia coul kill zelensky today and be done with it. Prove to me they couldnt
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:13 am to NC_Tigah
Lol exactly... And would easily be tracked and dead by any country with any modern type military.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:13 am to rpg37
Because it isn't a war with the goal you think they have in mind... In mind. It's got other goals altogether.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:28 am to Trumballs
quote:How'd that work with Saddam, prior to the US occupying the entire country?
And would easily be tracked and dead by any country with any modern type military.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:31 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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If they had overwhelming force and could rapidly seize territory there would be no need for a war of attrition because the Ukrainian forces would have disbanded.
You mean the way this guy's military used overwhelming force and rapidly seized territory while Saddam Hussein's disbanded?
Russia hasn't made all the right decisions or performed flawlessly. But the obvious strategy has been to avoid having to occupy a lot of territory (outside of heavily ethnically Russian areas) and to try to pin down and destroy Ukrainian forces.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:31 am to rpg37
1. This isn't a real war. It is just sword rattling at best, extortion at worst.
2. They are smart enough to know they don't want anything of what would happen if they just flat out obliterated and took Ukraine.
2. They are smart enough to know they don't want anything of what would happen if they just flat out obliterated and took Ukraine.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:45 am to rpg37
quote:do they? They tried to take Ukraine in the first month. They didn't have the logistical capacity part their rail heads to support themselves, so they got pushed back and lost 75% of what they took. They have lost over 100k men and at least half of their active armored vehicles in a year of fighting. They don't have an overwhelming army, they were a paper tiger that was hollowed out by incredible corruption. Now they are reduced to emptying prisons into Wagner group for human canon for use in WWI tactics. The short answer is they tried and failed miserably
They have an overwhelming army
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:45 am to crazy4lsu
quote:
Not bringing your A game today.
Ain’t nobody wasting their A game on you.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:07 am to narddogg81
quote:Who tells you shite like this and why do you believe it? You fell for the Ghost of Kiev, didn't you?
They have lost over 100k men and at least half of their active armored vehicles in a year of fighting.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:12 am to Epaminondas
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Russia hasn't made all the right decisions or performed flawlessly. But the obvious strategy has been to avoid having to occupy a lot of territory (outside of heavily ethnically Russian areas) and to try to pin down and destroy Ukrainian forces.
Losing Kherson and Kharkiv was part of their master plan too, right? 4D Chess! Don't forget the feint of failing, i mean pretending to capture Kiev in 48.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 11:13 am
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:18 am to rpg37
Ideally, Russia would like to again have Ukraine intact as a highly productive part of Russia. There is a vast wealth of agricultural and natural resources in Ukraine.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:22 am to GurleyGirl
Yes that, but also they've been making their domestic political appeal and propaganda efforts toward Ukrainians on the basis of the idea that Ukraine is a part of Russia and it doesn't make political sense in the context of your strategy to destroy what you're arguing is your own country.
They are, of course, actually destroying large areas of Ukraine in spite of this, selectively revealing it to their people, and eliding the contradictions by claiming that they're actually fighting NATO in Ukraine since the "real Ukrainians" only want union with Moscow...
They are, of course, actually destroying large areas of Ukraine in spite of this, selectively revealing it to their people, and eliding the contradictions by claiming that they're actually fighting NATO in Ukraine since the "real Ukrainians" only want union with Moscow...
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 11:33 am
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:31 am to rpg37
1. They want it as much in tack as possible
2. They are trying to bleed nato economy which leads to 3
3. We are going back to different economic structures like the Cold War. The difference is china replaces Russia.. Russia had used this to strengthen their alliances and forge their own economic monetary supply buffering their economic problems easier.
4. Look for even more inroads in south/Central America on behalf of this new alliance. We already have seen it but I’d imagine it will grow
2. They are trying to bleed nato economy which leads to 3
3. We are going back to different economic structures like the Cold War. The difference is china replaces Russia.. Russia had used this to strengthen their alliances and forge their own economic monetary supply buffering their economic problems easier.
4. Look for even more inroads in south/Central America on behalf of this new alliance. We already have seen it but I’d imagine it will grow
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:35 am to davyjones
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Ain’t nobody wasting their A game on you.
Damn I got you cucked. All because you said something stupid and couldn't defend yourself. Sad!
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:37 am to davyjones
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Ain’t nobody wasting their A game on you.
I’m coming to believe more and more that your A game is actually just autism.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:53 am to crazy4lsu
You’re trying hard to redeem yourself and I don’t even know why. Nobody even knows you, nobody cares. Just let it go. You keep calling attention to yourself which doesn’t help.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:57 am to Mattmac920
quote:You're coming on a little strong pretty early Mr eff-bee-eye sir
Why don’t they get rid of our regime here in Washington?
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:04 pm to Mattmac920
Matt - there is a poster named JJDoc I think you talk to he has lots of interesting ideas and I think y'all would hit it off
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:05 pm to rpg37
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What is their goal? I am unsure the complexity of this. They have an overwhelming army. If they want Ukraine why don't they just take it?
that was plan "A" last February, but it failed, and they didn't have Plan B ready, so they called up reserves, emptied out the prisons, and did another round of conscription. Plan "b" is about ready, as they bought time with the reservists/prisoners and held the stalemate for the past 4-5 months.
now with half a million troops will their plan B spring offensive work or will they move to plan C.......
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 12:07 pm
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