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re: Why doesn't Russia just destroy Ukraine?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:24 pm to doubleb
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:24 pm to doubleb
It is a war after all
Ukraine should not have allowed a foreign bully nation to take over its elections and run a coup against the Ukraine citizens
They also should not have allowed bioweapons labs to be built there by the same evil country
Ukraine should not have allowed a foreign bully nation to take over its elections and run a coup against the Ukraine citizens
They also should not have allowed bioweapons labs to be built there by the same evil country
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 8:26 pm
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Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:25 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Because their army isn’t all that you seem to think it is. And why do you want them to anyways??
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:31 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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It is a war after all
Really!!
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Ukraine should not have allowed a foreign bully nation to take over its elections and run a coup against the Ukraine citizens
And thus give the Russians a blank check to take Crimea, the Donbas and whatever else they wanted. That is the party line.
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They also should not have allowed bioweapons labs to be built there by the same evil country
Don’t forget the Nazis and Jews.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:51 pm to doubleb
quote:the words of a bloodlusting warmonger
doubleb
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:53 pm to rpg37
Because Russia is a paper tiger. They are very weak
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:53 pm to Epaminondas
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It's more about destroying the Ukrainian military and it's ability to be a problem in the future than it is about quickly seizing territory.
this is ridiculous but I’ll play along. Why was the Ukrainian military a threat to Russia before Russia invaded? And why has Ukraine needed so much Western materiel if it was so formidable to begin with?
Long time, first time, I’ll hang up and listen…
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:00 pm to Stonehog
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They want to go out on their own terms. Russia only has a few decades left as a country, they either get destroyed by NATO or they die slowly from an aging population and low birth rates. They prefer the latter.
Crazy shite here.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:04 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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the words of a bloodlusting warmonger
I was praying Russia wasn’t going to attack Ukraine. I still pray someone takes out Putin and Russia comes to their senses.
If a treaty is feasible I hope it gets done.
Meanwhile, I hope Ukraine kicks Russian butt.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:08 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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want to minimize loss of civilians
this is categorically false
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:17 pm to rpg37
I think it’s because “you break it, you buy it.” People will disagree and dismiss that suggestion, but look at it this way: would Pakistan want to destroy Afghanistan and then get out of there and just act as if “well, we whooped their arse, let’s take it to the house, playas”?? What would happen next is a nasty power vacuum in their neighboring country where who knows what the hell would come of it, only to have the lawlessness spill over into their own country, creating risks and threats to the stability of their own government.
Bottom line, they want and need stability and security with their neighbors. Do I have anything whatsoever to offer to support this hypothesis? Nope. I shot straight from the hip and have zero idea what I’m really talking about. Sounds good though I think.
Bottom line, they want and need stability and security with their neighbors. Do I have anything whatsoever to offer to support this hypothesis? Nope. I shot straight from the hip and have zero idea what I’m really talking about. Sounds good though I think.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:19 pm to davyjones
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Do I have anything whatsoever to offer to support this hypothesis? Nope. I shot straight from the hip and have zero idea what I’m really talking about. Sounds good though I think.
Truer words have never been spoken about your entire post history
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:21 pm to boosiebadazz
Cool story, stalker.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:27 pm to Stonehog
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They want to go out on their own terms
What are those terms?
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Russia only has a few decades left as a country,
How do you know this?
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they either get destroyed by NATO or they die slowly from an aging population and low birth rates.
You believe a country that big will go out in 2p years because of aging and low birth rates?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:27 pm to OceanMan
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Crazy shite here.
I didn’t make it up, this guy on Rogan lays it out well.
The real reason why Russia invaded Ukraine
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:38 pm to rpg37
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Why doesn't Russia just destroy Ukraine?
Because eventually, they will have to rebuild the infrastructure that is destroyed and hopefully, be able to coexist in peace. Historically, the people of these two countries have a lot more in common with one another other than we have with either.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 2:44 am
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:40 pm to Epaminondas
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For Russia, it's a war of attrition. It's more about destroying the Ukrainian military and it's ability to be a problem in the future than it is about quickly seizing territory.
At this point it could be the case. But that is a decision that was made for them. Their inept first few days of the war put them in the position to dig in.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:42 pm to TigerAttorney
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They are trying to absorb their territory and people as their own. They can’t destroy it. Defeats the purpose.
You should see the aftermath photos of some places.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:42 pm to rpg37
I think they thought they were going to roll up int here and people would be like "well ok I guess Ukraine is a state of Russia again" and go about their business. It didn't work out but they can't withdraw because of pride.
Destroying Ukraine doesn't do much for their agenda because the world would go against them even harder and culturally (domestically) it's bad move because of the connected history between the people of Russia and Ukraine.
Destroying Ukraine doesn't do much for their agenda because the world would go against them even harder and culturally (domestically) it's bad move because of the connected history between the people of Russia and Ukraine.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:44 pm to davyjones
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would Pakistan want to destroy Afghanistan and then get out of there and just act as if “well, we whooped their arse, let’s take it to the house, playas”?? What would happen next is a nasty power vacuum in their neighboring country where who knows what the hell would come of it, only to have the lawlessness spill over into their own country, creating risks and threats to the stability of their own government.
Damn, someone doesn't understand Pakistani politics.
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Bottom line, they want and need stability and security with their neighbors.
Which is why former Eastern Bloc countries led the push to be included in Western organizations.
The shite you guys say.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:49 pm to Errerrerrwere
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What are those terms?
Die slowly with their sovereignty intact. That’s what they want but it’s not gonna happen, they share too many borders with countries they consider hostile.
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You believe a country that big will go out in 2p years because of aging and low birth rates?
I said a few decades, the guy in the video I posted said 2050 or 2070 even without this war. They’ve had big “melon scoops” taken out of their population in the last century. WWI, WWII, collectivization under Stalin, etc. The Russian ethnicity itself is fading fast. Not enough young people having babies and no immigration to replace anyone.
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