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re: Why doesn't Russia just destroy Ukraine?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:50 pm to Stonehog
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:50 pm to Stonehog
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I didn’t make it up, this guy on Rogan lays it out well.
So according to Rogan it’s not NATO, bio labs, Nazis or the Jews that triggered Russia. It was their dying culture that made this inevitable.
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Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:52 pm to thejuiceisloose
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"Look at me, I'm the victim"
Dude, we are buying oil from Russia, ergo, we are funding the war on both sides. Capiche?
LINK
US Energy Information Admin.
Shouldn't the amount be zero? Yes, we are giving money to both sides and our politicians and statists are making money from both sides.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:53 pm to crazy4lsu
Ok you damn tard, then substitute some other comparable situation. Pakistan isn’t the object of the statement.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:03 pm to rpg37
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If they want Ukraine why don't they just take it?
the people who live there shoot them. as time goes by usa and our nato allies are providing weapons and us intelligence. even internet from tesla guy.
first we sent field artillery. now Germany and usa will send modern tanks.
france and poland are both going to send fighter jets.
the jets seems to me to an indication some allies are fed up with putins grab for glory. they decided he wont nuke them.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:03 pm to rpg37
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What is their goal? I am unsure the complexity of this. They have an overwhelming army. If they want Ukraine why don't they just take it?
Just curious, but how do you know Russia has an overwhelming army?
Once you drop that assumption, everything else makes more sense.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:11 pm to rpg37
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If they want Ukraine why don't they just take it?
They want to goad the west into a larger conflict. It’s the only thing that makes sense to me at this point
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:13 pm to davyjones
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Pakistan isn’t the object of the statement.
No shite.
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Ok you damn tard, then substitute some other comparable situation.
You dumb bitch, Russian actions undermine the notion they want stability in border regions going back to 2002 at least.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:13 pm to Buryl
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Just curious, but how do you know Russia has an overwhelming army?
This is it. Russia isn't really built for conventional warfare and can't fight one with bigger weaponry because of the blowback.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:16 pm to Buryl
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They have an overwhelming army. If they want Ukraine why don't they just take it?
Just curious, but how do you know Russia has an overwhelming army?
Once you drop that assumption, everything else makes more sense.
russia drafted 300,000 soon after.
this week they announced 500000 more to be drafted. therefore they are not ready for prime time.
when the first 300000 were drafted thousands fled russia to avoid the draft. kazakstan was a favorite.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:19 pm to CelticDog
All this while the chicomms sending a balloon over us soul… you boys better rewatch red dawn
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:28 pm to rpg37
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They have an overwhelming army.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:37 pm to crazy4lsu
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You dumb bitch, Russian actions undermine the notion they want stability in border regions going back to 2002 at least.
Congratulations on reciting that small bit of history, but in case you didn’t notice the thread topic describes a hypothetical situation. Which kind of opens the door for a hypothetical response. Go waste someone else’s time with your sweet history lecture. Good luck.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:37 pm to boosiebadazz
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Why was the Ukrainian military a threat to Russia before Russia invaded? And why has Ukraine needed so much Western materiel if it was so formidable to begin with?
You're "questions" translate roughly to: "Nuh uh. Russia can't be the good guys cuz they started it and they're beating up the smaller kid."
The point was that Russia's strategy has focused on attrition more than rapidly seizing territory.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:44 pm to rpg37
You think we’re the only ones who know how to profit from perpetual conflict?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:49 pm to davyjones
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Congratulations on reciting that small bit of history, but in case you didn’t notice the thread topic describes a hypothetical situation. Which kind of opens the door for a hypothetical response. Go waste someone else’s time with your sweet history lecture. Good luck.
Uh, you were the one who made the definitive statement. It was retarded and stupid. The premise of the topic is also nonsensical, because large areas of the occupied territories have been destroyed. But you'd have to know about Russian doctrine and actually put pieces together, which is beyond your ability as a 'simple' man or whatever.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:54 pm to rpg37
Because their war isn't really with Ukraine itself. Ukraine is most likely just the game board they are using to fight against the ever expanding NATO. Just like we're using Ukraine as the game board to fight against Russia.
Neither side wants to flip over the game board and look weak. We can't stop because we've talked so much shite, and spent so much money on that war. Would piss off a lot of people if we just stopped and said "oh well". Russia can't stop because they've also talked a lot of shite and have already spent a lot of money and sacrificed a lot of soldiers. Just giving up would probably make a lot of Russian citizens pissed off.
Negotiations would've been better a long time ago. I believe a treaty or some shite that bans NATO from entering Ukraine in the future would've ended that war. Potentially something like... Nato is banned from Ukraine, and Russia gives all the land back they've taken.
Neither side wants to flip over the game board and look weak. We can't stop because we've talked so much shite, and spent so much money on that war. Would piss off a lot of people if we just stopped and said "oh well". Russia can't stop because they've also talked a lot of shite and have already spent a lot of money and sacrificed a lot of soldiers. Just giving up would probably make a lot of Russian citizens pissed off.
Negotiations would've been better a long time ago. I believe a treaty or some shite that bans NATO from entering Ukraine in the future would've ended that war. Potentially something like... Nato is banned from Ukraine, and Russia gives all the land back they've taken.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:55 pm to crazy4lsu
That’s one of the most pitiful things about this joint. I’m going to let you in on a little secret - nobody on here knows anything definitively. Even if they word it as such. Now, I could’ve done better to remind anyone reading my post that it’s “JMO” and normally I do. Which I don’t see very much from anyone else, which is likely because everyone else thinks they’re an expert in literally every area, and that’s embarrassing and sad.
So let me be clear and point out again……”all JMO”. What about you? Expert I’m guessing??
So let me be clear and point out again……”all JMO”. What about you? Expert I’m guessing??
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:01 pm to davyjones
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I’m going to let you in on a little secret - nobody on here knows anything definitively.
What an odd defense. You were the one who made the definitive statement, and your defense is that no one knows anything definitively? Are you having a stroke?
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Which I don’t see very much from anyone else, which is likely because everyone else thinks they’re an expert in literally every area, and that’s embarrassing and sad.
You were the one who made the definitive statement though? I'm very confused by your 'I'm a complete dumbass and so is everyone else, so therefore my dumbassery should be okay.' Damn you are dumb.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:09 pm to crazy4lsu
Did you not read all of my last post particularly the part where I assure you that it’s all just my opinion??
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:11 pm to Epaminondas
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The point was that Russia's strategy has focused on attrition more than rapidly seizing territory.
Putin and most "experts" thought that Russia would have Ukraine subjugated in a couple of weeks. He had gotten away with taking part of Georgia quickly and Crimea too so why not Ukraine.
Two weeks to flatten the curve...
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