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re: Why doesn't Russia just destroy Ukraine?

Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:14 pm to
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Did you not read all of my last post particularly the part where I assure you that it’s all just my opinion??



Okay, you have some stupid opinions. Glad we agree. Run along.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19386 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:18 am to
I personally don’t believe their military is in very good shape. I’m sure they could simply use numbers (manpower) to win versus Ukraine, but the political climate isn’t in their favor for such a large waste of lives.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29924 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:34 am to
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Run along

I will, because I can. I know you ain’t gonna be doing any running, Fats Domino. Naw that’s an insult to Fats. Try Fats Jenkins on for size. Lol
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9357 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:13 am to
Russia has had a difficult time supplying 200,000 troops in theater. It has extensive borders to defend of many thousands of miles.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9357 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:16 am to
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Crazy shite here.


Not at all, the only segment of their population with any decent birthrate is in the Allahu Akbar regions. The Slavic population is doomed. Highest abortion rate in the world by a lot. A distant second place is Vietnam.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12507 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:44 am to
Because they are trying to take over Ukraine and control it. Does no good to have control over Ukraine if the country is destroy .
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39555 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:54 am to
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The point was that Russia's strategy has focused on attrition more than rapidly seizing territory.




If they had overwhelming force and could rapidly seize territory there would be no need for a war of attrition because the Ukrainian forces would have disbanded. No army in the world strategizes, "we could win in two weeks, but we'd rather hang around for two years and make this more difficult for funsies."

Russia is in a war of attrition because they bungled the invasion so badly that's what they are left with.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 7:56 am
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:55 am to
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Russia is in a war of attrition because they bungled the invasion so badly that's what they are left with.


i recall massive russian move against kyiv. tanks and trucks for miles.
they approached and shelled but never occupied.
by and by logistics set in and tough sledding ensued.
retreated to participate in the taking of the black sea which has had good initial russian result and eventually just lost some of it. in a couple months after what they do for basic the 500k new troops will get to do holding actions vs modern tanks.
ugly.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15396 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:00 am to
Is that propaganda delicious or does it burn going down like a shot without a chaser?
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:03 am to
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For Russia, it's a war of attrition. It's more about destroying the Ukrainian military and it's ability to be a problem in the future than it is about quickly seizing territory.


So how will that work with all of the new tanks and F16's that are going there to counter the Ruskies?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:06 am to
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 I know you ain’t gonna be doing any running, Fats Domino. Naw that’s an insult to Fats. Try Fats Jenkins on for size.


Do you have autism?
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7356 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:22 am to
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Because they are splitting the US money. Less the big guys cut


I heard an amazing statistic last night. With as much as we are spending in international conflicts, just 20 billion dollars could fund all of the federal authorized hurricane risk reduction systems in Southeast Louisiana.

In a 2 trillion dollar annual budget, that is pretty much a rounding error in the federal budget.

Not so sound like a peacenik, it is time we start focusing on home issues instead of international conflict.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123782 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:36 am to
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For Russia, it's a war of attrition. It's more about destroying the Ukrainian military and it's ability to be a problem in the future than it is about quickly seizing territory.
Russia envisioned popping into Kiev with the same speed and success we overran Iraq and took Baghdad. From that point they'd depose Zelinsky, warn Ukrainians not to deal with NATO and then "generously" give them back all but the mineral rich eastern portions of their country.

That was the plan. It failed. Ukraine staved off the blitzkrieg, and Russian air supremacy. Now this thing is a WWI style slogfest. This was not what Putin wanted or expected. Still, there is no chance or path for Ukraine to "win." People should be at the negotiating table, but WE are scuttling that option.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 9:37 am
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:40 am to
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crazy4lsu

BARF
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:41 am to
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Do you have autism?

Do you have middle Eastern mental illnesses?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:43 am to
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Do you have middle Eastern mental illnesses?



Not bringing your A game today.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:44 am to
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crazy4lsu
crazy crazy4lsu
Posted by Trumballs
BR
Member since Jan 2023
19 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:45 am to
Because this is an agreed upon war to grift the American middle classes tax money and enrich our frenemies in europe. Transfer of wealth
Posted by Trumballs
BR
Member since Jan 2023
19 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:46 am to
Dude..
Russia coul kill zelensky today and be done with it. Prove to me they couldnt
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36403 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:47 am to
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Not at all, the only segment of their population with any decent birthrate is in the Allahu Akbar regions.


That should excite all the “America firsters” here who are now proudly allying themselves with Iran. Remember when the military tribunals were going to hang the Obama for selling out to Iran? Maybe when that day comes they can do a sweep through this board too.
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