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Very embarrassing look for Yale to put their name on this “Medicare for all” study
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:03 pm
You have to be a complete boob to believe this crock
I’m not linking it because it doesn’t deserve web traffic
The study assumes, and I am not kidding one iota, that reducing all provider and hospital income to Medicare reimbursement rates will not cause any disruption in the supply of health care.
Likewise, the study butchers “efficiency of Medicare” stats.
Nonetheless, expect to see activists, “patient advocate” groups, fat people with type 2 diabetes, and other groups that whine incessantly about muh expensive treatment!!! to spread this far and wide
Remember when governor JBE and Nola dems promised Louisiana voters that Medicaid expansion would lead to a steep decline in monthly premiums for working families? Did that ever happen? Obama and the dems claimed the same thing would happen on the national level.
It’s unicorn farts. But overweight Americans with type 2 diabetes and parents in nursing homes, who sit on the computer and whine about their health costs, will take it hook line and sinker
I’m not linking it because it doesn’t deserve web traffic
The study assumes, and I am not kidding one iota, that reducing all provider and hospital income to Medicare reimbursement rates will not cause any disruption in the supply of health care.
Likewise, the study butchers “efficiency of Medicare” stats.
Nonetheless, expect to see activists, “patient advocate” groups, fat people with type 2 diabetes, and other groups that whine incessantly about muh expensive treatment!!! to spread this far and wide
Remember when governor JBE and Nola dems promised Louisiana voters that Medicaid expansion would lead to a steep decline in monthly premiums for working families? Did that ever happen? Obama and the dems claimed the same thing would happen on the national level.
It’s unicorn farts. But overweight Americans with type 2 diabetes and parents in nursing homes, who sit on the computer and whine about their health costs, will take it hook line and sinker
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Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:12 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It also posits that of two identical people, one person insured and one person not, the uninsured person is 40% more likely to die in a given year.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Quality, affordability and accessibility.
In life, you only ever get two.
In life, you only ever get two.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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You have to be a complete boob to believe this crock
Yale is one of the most woke and liberal Universities on the planet. Yale doesn't concentrate on training Joe Blow Family Medicine Physicians. They train Academic Physicians and Surgeons whose mission is to train Doctors how and why the woke medical way. It's not inconceivable at all that Yale would initiate this kind of study.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Did they do this in a vacuum or did they take into account the mass retirement in the suddenly disincentivized workforce?
The study has “…not yet been peer reviewed”.
But it will be! …and not by those who are opponents. That’s not how modern peer review works; only those who support the narrative can give the veneer of objectivity by way of “peer review”. Just ask Fauci.
Talk about a timely piece to influence the mid terms and create a talking point for 2028.
The study has “…not yet been peer reviewed”.
But it will be! …and not by those who are opponents. That’s not how modern peer review works; only those who support the narrative can give the veneer of objectivity by way of “peer review”. Just ask Fauci.
Talk about a timely piece to influence the mid terms and create a talking point for 2028.
This post was edited on 8/17/26 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It’s a joke. Their lives saved number is solely dependent on a very small study that showed uninsured had a roughly 40% higher mortality rate. It didn’t normalize for anything health wise, race, age, etc. that’s where the lives saved comes from. It just guessed that under-insured people had a roughly 25% higher rate (with no backing just their own estimate somewhere in the middle).
Completely ignoring there was a magnitudes larger study done the same time that showed no statistical difference between insured and uninsured, just determining that the only factor that would save people’s lives being insurance is a laughable assumption to make.
Completely ignoring there was a magnitudes larger study done the same time that showed no statistical difference between insured and uninsured, just determining that the only factor that would save people’s lives being insurance is a laughable assumption to make.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 11:14 pm to the808bass
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It also posits that of two identical people, one person insured and one person not, the uninsured person is 40% more likely to die in a given year.
Probably true. I would imagine the likelihood of any given person dying in any given year is quite low.
Yep, that's what I thought: I looked it up and you have to get to age 65 before that likelihood even gets to be 1% for both genders. For a 40 year old, the chances are only .25% for men and .15% for women.
So sure, I can believe that an uninsured person has a .21% chance rather than a .15% chance.
Is that 40% more? Sure. It's also statistically insignificant because the chance was so low in the first place.
It's also almost certainly influenced due to the fact that people who don't have health insurance are also almost certainly more likely to smoke, drink heavily, and be overweight or obese.
This post was edited on 8/17/26 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:12 am to wackatimesthree
Incredible work.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 5:20 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Well, you can have all of the studies you want, but unless Rs get off their asses and do something about the rising cost of insurance, Medicare for all will be a thing within 5 years.
I know many business owners, myself included who are sick and tired of health insurance being their largest overhead expense that never stops growing. They are tired of paying the majority of these premiums for Shiite insurance while watching billion dollar hospitals spring up everywhere.
Yeah so it’s coming, whether we like it or not.
I know many business owners, myself included who are sick and tired of health insurance being their largest overhead expense that never stops growing. They are tired of paying the majority of these premiums for Shiite insurance while watching billion dollar hospitals spring up everywhere.
Yeah so it’s coming, whether we like it or not.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 5:25 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Medicare for all? Have we really circled back to this? I was hoping that this stupid idea was dead after the Great Bernie’s scheme was determined to be unaffordable.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:03 am to the808bass
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It also posits that of two identical people, one person insured and one person not, the uninsured person is 40% more likely to die in a given year.
Keeping people alive longer costs more…..so pretty hard to reconcile Medicare for all saving a bunch of lives AND saving a bunch of money
Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:03 am to WeeWee
Simple, join the military.
Thinking of suing the government. Through no fault of my own. Military brat, 18 years of total government health care……..
Thinking of suing the government. Through no fault of my own. Military brat, 18 years of total government health care……..
Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:11 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Obama care was supposed to be the answer. All it did was raise medical costs greatly…
Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:15 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Universal healthcare will never happen in America. It will always have to exist as a mixture of both private and government supported options. There is no other way of doing healthcare in our country except for the way we do it right now. You can love it and you can hate it but it will be what it is now
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:04 pm to Zgeo
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Obama care was supposed to be the answer
Wrong Obama care wasn’t the answer. It was the strategy to push us to single payer
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:10 pm to Sweep Da Leg
That’s correct.
It was intended to fail.
It was intended to fail.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:12 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The study assumes, and I am not kidding one iota, that reducing all provider and hospital income to Medicare reimbursement rates will not cause any disruption in the supply of health care.
Healthcare is subject to the Law of Supply & Demand just like anything else. Stymie supply, Price goes up.
Medicare and health insurance already stimulate Demand while Supply has been suffering (thanks to AMA decisions and the ACA). Artificially limiting Price is going to do nothing but further limit Supply (early retirements, changing professions, etc).
Whoever wrote this needs to be beaten with Sowell's Basic Economics until they can recite the Law of Supply & Demand in their sleep.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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save 114,000 lives
I'm out
Posted on 8/18/26 at 2:02 pm to Ten Bears
I stopped using health care. Life span maxxing is for losers.
Why spend all that money to be miserable in diapers, imbecilic, and a net drain.
Our ancestors had it right, work hard live fast make lots of babies, die.
Medicare for all? How about no health care for anyone we can spend that money elsewhere.
Why spend all that money to be miserable in diapers, imbecilic, and a net drain.
Our ancestors had it right, work hard live fast make lots of babies, die.
Medicare for all? How about no health care for anyone we can spend that money elsewhere.
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