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Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:54 pm to hojo
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If I recall correctly, wasn't Sweden the country in Europe with the least stringent lockdown procedures?
Yes it was. That is one of the points of the article. You should read it.
Sweden intelligently stayed open. They got the covid infections over with earlier. They suffered a higher mortality rate because of this. Then things got better. And while everyone else was locked down, the Swedes were wide open.
Their economy did not suffer as much. In fact, the economic troubles they had were largely because their idiot trading partners shut down. Their people were able to get medical treatment for non-covid ailments, and their children were not suffering education setbacks and depression.
In short, Sweden did it better. Thank God they did not listen to Donald Trump who said that Sweden would regret not locking down. Yes he did; he said that.
It now appears that Sweden has a low "excess deaths" rate since the pandemic. And this is in spite of being very highly vaccinated. Ergo, the vaccines are not causing out=r high excess death rates. What is? We don't know. But I suspect depression, inability to access health care, and the fact that half our population is morbidly obese.
This post was edited on 3/9/23 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:56 pm to Penrod
Uhh, yeah it is. It’s either the vaccines or 5g. Both were the only major implementations across countries of 1Q-2Q 2021.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 1:47 pm to Penrod
Ehh sweden moved to online schools and you couldnt visit the eldery.
Not much diff than some of the states here.
They didnt have a total lockdown but they also didnt do nothing.
Also, Sweden has 10 million people. If the us had 10 million people wed have done better.
Not much diff than some of the states here.
They didnt have a total lockdown but they also didnt do nothing.
Also, Sweden has 10 million people. If the us had 10 million people wed have done better.
This post was edited on 3/9/23 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 3/9/23 at 1:50 pm to Penrod
Oh yes, I remember these threads in the summer of 2020. Nothing like comparing a country of 10.5M homogenous population to a fat melting pot mutt population of 365M.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 1:51 pm to Penrod
Gaslighting 101
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:00 pm to TrueTiger
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Do you know that half of peer reviewed studies are eventually debunked?
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SEPTEMBER 30, 2022
Sweden to stop offering Covid jabs to teenagers
Sweden's Public Health Agency said Friday it was no longer recommending that children aged 12 to 17 get vaccinated against Covid-19, citing the "very low risk" for the group.
LINK
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:03 pm to Tomatocantender
quote:... a mutt population in which two GSW's to the chest and a +CV19 test result, got a death by Covid categorization.
Nothing like comparing a country of 10.5M homogenous population to a fat melting pot mutt population of 365M
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:51 pm to Penrod
Swedes are much healthier than people in other countries. They watch what they eat and get a lot of exercise. They walk everywhere. One interesting thing is that they also are more apt to keep to themselves. Not as social a group of people as in other countries. Lots of Swedes are homebodies and many live alone. I think this and their better health before, during, and after Covid is why helped contribute to lower Covid death numbers.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:53 pm to TrueTiger
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Do you know that half of peer reviewed studies are eventually debunked?
Link? or GTFO.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:57 pm to hojo
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If I recall correctly, wasn't Sweden the country in Europe with the least stringent lockdown procedures?
Sweden decided to go for herd immunity early on and left precautions up to individual decisions. They had an early peak in deaths in the high risk groups and then it declined.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 3:13 pm to MurphyGator
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Swedes are much healthier than people in other countries. They watch what they eat and get a lot of exercise. They walk everywhere. One interesting thing is that they also are more apt to keep to themselves. Not as social a group of people as in other countries. Lots of Swedes are homebodies and many live alone. I think this and their better health before, during, and after Covid is why helped contribute to lower Covid death numbers.
A Leftist like our very own OP in this very thread would simply call this White Privilege. Remember, it's always whitey's fault in some way, shape or form.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 3:29 pm to texridder
Posted on 3/9/23 at 3:31 pm to Penrod
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Vaccines are not a big cause of excess deaths
That's your green light to keeping boosting yourself......the MRNA juice is safe and effective.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 3:34 pm to Penrod
quote:They were not "wide open". They were intelligently open. And what is most often lost and/or ignored is that the population voluntarily took on many "lockdown" measures in the absence of formal ones. There was much social distancing and the like.
Sweden intelligently stayed open. They got the covid infections over with earlier. They suffered a higher mortality rate because of this. Then things got better. And while everyone else was locked down, the Swedes were wide open.
Sweden also has - even as an outlier amongst the Nordic countries - a culture of nursing homes and non-intergenerational households. This made for more deaths early on.
Also, for whatever reason, their 2019 flu season was abnormally mild (again, even as compared to close neighbors Norway and Denmark). This basically set up their nursing homes as tinder boxes for the extremely weak to be culled quickly by covid - essentially, just catching them up on 2019 deaths.
What Sweden really demonstrates is the absurd polarity of moralizing that goes on now. How many times have they ratcheted back and forth between moral monsters and hyper-intelligent future-seers? EVERYONE wants to rush to make declarations about something we still just don't know nearly enough about.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 3:51 pm to Penrod
Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:35 pm to Penrod
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Sweden halts use of Moderna's COVID vaccine in under 30s
CBS Link...first one I came across
Maybe that's why.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 5:14 pm to Penrod
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Yes it was. That is one of the points of the article. You should read it.
Leaving it at yes would have sufficed, but you do prick so well, so "Keep up the good work" I guess?
Posted on 3/9/23 at 6:47 pm to Penrod
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Their excess death rate since COVID began killing people is lower than every other country in the OECD.
I'm not sure you understand the gravity of this statement. They still have excess deaths with no explanation
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Figures from statistics agency Eurostat showed the country had 7.7 per cent more deaths than its average for the preceding four years.
They were the only OECD country that didnt lock down. That fact alone, would negate a true comparison to all the other countries that did. Perhaps remaining active allowed them to maintain a robust immune system that counter-acted the spikes from the mRNA vax
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Sweden's no-lockdown COVID strategy was broadly correct, commission suggests
Posted on 3/9/23 at 7:19 pm to Penrod
I agree. Never been a better time for you to booster up.
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