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re: There is no way this $300B surrender package gets through congress

Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5223 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:21 pm to
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There isn’t a representative alive that is running for reelection that can vote for it


I'm confused, I thought we sent billions to Ukraine during the war?

Also, can you tell me about the 1.8 Billion Obama sent to Ukraine and placed into the Privat Bank which then disappeared?

How about that Burisma deal?

We know when Trump tried to look into that he got impeached
Posted by Techdave
Laffy
Member since Apr 2014
900 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:22 pm to
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Will the people that are telling me I’m stupid please tell me what I’m being stupid about? Like with facts


That pawprint next to your name is a start.....
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2160 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:23 pm to
"I'm starting to think IMSA knows that and is only pretending to be upset. One could be forgiven for thinking he hasn't seen anything official about the deal and is just making shite up. Could his anger here be disingenuous?"


it's the pattern I just spoke to above. It's the new strategy. They start with a position they know is disingenuous and then pretend every time it is explained to them that it isn't explained to them.

After several of these rounds they just run off. Then start the process over again.

They see this as strategy rather than the pathetic position it actually is.

This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 4:24 pm
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13475 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:24 pm to
How much is in the accounts the US has frozen? My guess is this is where it was coming from. Did Congress approve the pallets of cash Obama sent?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24271 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:24 pm to
Go to Google and query this. For either Germany or Japan. Was the Japanese surrender in WWII signed as a treaty?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37856 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:24 pm to
We are sending the money through Qatar and their corrupt asses will disburse
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
872 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:24 pm to
Do you honestly believe there will be $0 in taxpayer funds in that $300B?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65861 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Please educate me on what I am missing?

Followed by 4 non-answer, shithead replies. Typical.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59773 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:28 pm to
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Do you honestly believe there will be $0 in taxpayer funds in that $300B?


Yes. Now will you admit you were ignorant as to where that money was coming from?

Can you link your thread detailing how Congress must approve Bidens spending When he exercised PDA powers? TIA
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 4:30 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139658 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:28 pm to
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Quit deflecting from the fact that you sounded like a dummy about the 300 billion.
To paraphrase Forrest Gump, "sounded" is as "sounded" does.
Both circle back around to "dummy."
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3982 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:30 pm to
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Do you honestly believe there will be $0 in taxpayer funds in that $300B?

Do you have any information that would suggest otherwise? Personally, I haven't seen anything official from the admin yet as you seem to have done. You found that link yet?
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2160 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:31 pm to
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Do you honestly believe there will be $0 in taxpayer funds in that $300B?


I don't know. I haven't seen the MOU or the final agreement that hasn't been signed yet.

Have you?

I've answered your question honestly. How about if you start answering a few rather than just moving the goalposts around?

Do you honestly believe there will be $300B in taxpayer funds in the $300B? Do you honestly believe that Iran's neighbors will not trade reconstruction funding for actual assurances from an admin they trust that the Iranian nuclear and terror threat has been eliminated?
Have you honestly read the details of this agreement or listened to the full position of Vance discussing it?

Do you honestly believe Congress will be asked to approve $300B?

Have you honestly been this honestly stupid throughout this thread or are you just being disingenuous in order to push a narrative that is not based on fact at all?

thanks in advance for answering others questions honestly

This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 4:33 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45102 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:33 pm to
its not taxpayer money, its not coming from the US
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19724 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:34 pm to
Purposely retarded or willfully ignorant ?
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
872 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:36 pm to
Whether it has taxpayer funds or not it still has to get through the Senate. Otherwise Iran is not going to sign it because they got burned so badly by Trump the last time they agreed to a deal with the USA.

Yes I believe the deal will contain taxpayer money (e.g., the ballroom / the wall will not cost the taxpayers anything)
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 5:04 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139658 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:40 pm to
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Do you honestly believe there will be $0 in taxpayer funds in that $300B?
Not if you believe, as you apparently do, that "Gulf States" relates to TX, LA, MS, AL, and FL.

Of course, as has been explained many many many times, Gulf States in this instance refers to Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE.
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 4:41 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139658 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:41 pm to
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the ballroom will not cost the taxpayers anything
It hasn't you effing imbecile!
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
872 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:44 pm to
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Gulf States in this instance refers to Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE.

Do you honestly believe these countries, that hate Iran a lot more than we do, are going to cut $100B’s in checks to rebuild it? You can’t be that stupid
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2160 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:44 pm to
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Otherwise Iran is not going to sign it because they got burned so badly by Trump the last time they agreed to a deal with the USA.
Of course posting this assumes

1) iran is negotiating from a position of strength and

2) Iran has the moral high ground when it comes to agreements with the US historically.


Which is exactly how a disingenuous TDS infected douche canoe would think.
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 4:47 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59773 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:45 pm to
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Do you honestly believe these countries, that hate Iran a lot more than we do, are going to cut $100B’s in checks to rebuild it? You can’t be that stupid


To ensure they can’t be wiped off the planet? Of course!

Stop calling people stupid when you don’t have a grasp of the basic facts. How stupid do you have to be to continually double down on your ignorance. You got fooled by a headline. Just admit it and move on. Stop being a dumb useful idiot.


Oh by the way. You liberals equate poor education to stupidity, right? There are several people in this thread far far more educated than you that you are calling stupid. Stop digging. You can’t be that stupid.
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 4:49 pm
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