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re: There is no way this $300B surrender package gets through congress

Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:48 pm to
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Whether it has taxpayer funds or not it still has to get through the Senate.


not quite the constitutional scholar are you? Golden gate for law school?

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Otherwise Iran is not going to sign it because they got burned so badly by Trump the last time they agreed to a deal with the USA.


You think you have a pulse on what the Mullahs are considering? delusions of grandeur.


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Yes I believe the deal will contain taxpayer money (e.g., the ballroom will not cost the taxpayers anything)


More hubris from a place of complete ignorance? Holy shite, you’re stupid.
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
872 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:53 pm to
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not quite the constitutional scholar are you? Golden gate for law school?

Do you know what the Treaty Clause in the US Constitution says?
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3982 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:53 pm to
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You think you have a pulse on what the Mullahs are considering?

He's obviously plugged into an intelligence pipeline that the rest of us are not. What pisses me off is that the dude is holding out. He 'knows' all these things but won't tell us how. Sticks in my craw, I tell ya!
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 4:54 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59773 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:55 pm to
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Do you know what the Treaty Clause in the US Constitution says?


Do you think this is a treaty? South texas school of law? I’m trying to figure out where this knowledge came from? Keep doubling down. It’s very entertaining.

It’s ok to learn and not speak. You should probably do that. You’re making a fool of yourself. You’re entertaining, though.
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 4:57 pm
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12540 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:57 pm to
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Unlike the pallets of cash Hussein sent to the Ayatollah to pursue their nuclear ambitions, mind you.


That was 1.7 billion not 300 billion

What do you think Iran is going to do with this 300 billion? Build parks and bridges?
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 4:58 pm
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2160 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:58 pm to
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To ensure they can’t be wiped off the planet? Of course


He really can’t be this stupid can he ??

To make the case that these countries finally have a leader in Trump that they can trust to cut and enforce the right deal to ensure peace in their region. That they finally gave somebody after 47 years they can count on to follow through. That in agreeing to this they are proving they knew they were weeks away from being subject to a regional nuclear overlord. That their cobtribution is a drop in the bucket to assure stability and safety ??

He just can’t be this stupid.

I wi day how stupid he’s going to get when a few of these nations sign Abraham agreements with Israel brokered by whitcoff and kushner ????? His head might explode.

Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:59 pm to
Now you on the other hand have proven your stupidity knows no bounds !!!!!!

On multiple occasions.
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
872 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:02 pm to
Yes - see definition of treaty below

A treaty is a formally signed and ratified written agreement between sovereign states or international organizations. It serves as a binding contract under international law, used to establish rules, resolve disputes, form alliances, or manage trade
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12540 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:03 pm to
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Now you on the other hand have proven your stupidity knows no bounds


So Obama was bad for returning 1.7 billion but Trump is good for helping Iran get 300 billion? Walk me through that MAGA logic.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59773 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:05 pm to
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So Obama was bad for returning 1.7 billion but Trump is good for helping Iran get 300 billion? Walk me through that MAGA logic.


Obama surreptitiously released 1.7 billion of cash that the US controlled with no strings attached.

Trump helped negotiate a deal that would forever eliminate Iran as a potential nuclear state and Irans neighbors were very happy to pay for that.


That needed to be explained to you?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59773 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:06 pm to
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Yes


There is your problem. You, again, are ignorant. It is a memorandum of understanding. You’re literally the only person anywhere arguing it’s a treaty.
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
872 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:07 pm to
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Obama surreptitiously released 1.7 billion of cash that the US controlled with no strings attached.

The strings of “nuclear development” were very similar to what is be proposed in this agreement
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12540 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:08 pm to
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Trump helped negotiate a deal that would forever eliminate Iran as a potential nuclear state




There is no way you are this stupid. That 300 billion is absolutely going to 100% fund their nuclear aspirations. We will be back to the “two weeks” bullshite 18 months from now. 1.7 billion is a pittance compared to what Trump orchestrated. We gain absolutely nothing from this ‘deal’.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59773 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:08 pm to
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The strings of “nuclear development” were very similar to what is be proposed in this agreement


Liar. You haven’t seen the verbiage of either. You think a memorandum of understanding is a treaty. You are a very stupid person.
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
872 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:09 pm to
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There is your problem. You, again, are ignorant. It is a memorandum of understanding. You’re literally the only person anywhere arguing it’s a treaty.

Do you believe the Obama agreement in 2015 was constitutional, because I don’t?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59773 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:12 pm to
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There is no way you are this stupid. That 300 billion is absolutely going to 100% fund their nuclear aspirations.


You know the stipulations required to get the money? Please list them. You know how hard it is to go from 0 percent enrichment to weaponized than it is from 65%. Of course you don’t.

You’re just another moron opining with hubris from a place of complete ignorance.


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We will be back to the “two weeks” bullshite 18 months from now.


You really should do a modicum of research before making a complete fool of yourself. How long does it take to go from 65% enrichment to weaponized (hint. Two weeks). How long does it take to go from zero to 65%? When there is no existing infrastructure (Hint: a lot longer than 18 months).


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7 billion is a pittance compared to what Trump orchestrated. We gain absolutely nothing from this ‘deal’.


We arent paying a thing. We limited the oil China imported from Iran. And we have, for an extended period of time, no chance of a nuclear Iran. You dumb idiot.
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 5:15 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59773 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:14 pm to
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Do you believe the Obama agreement in 2015 was constitutional, because I don’t?


Memorandums of understanding are absolutely constitutional. Never heard a single argument against that. Until now….

Surreptitiously sending cash to Iran with no strings attached is problematic.

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12540 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:14 pm to
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You know the stipulations required to get the money?



There is no way you are this stupid. I can only imagine what your comments on here would be if Biden or Obama orchestrated this same ‘deal’. We will be back to “two weeks” not even two years from now and you will just come on here and make more delusional desperate excuses to protect your dear leader doing dumb shite.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33698 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:15 pm to
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BBONDS25


You are wasting valuable time Brother

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59773 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:15 pm to
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There is no way you are this stupid. I can only imagine what your comments on here would be if Biden or Obama orchestrated this same ‘deal’. We will be back to “two weeks” not even two years from now and you will just come on here and make more delusional desperate excuses to protect your dear leader doing dumb shite.


Completely non-responsive to the facts I posted. Just your emotions and ignorance on full display. Typical leftist.
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 5:16 pm
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