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re: The real reason behind data centers is “surveillance capitalism”
Posted on 7/1/26 at 8:03 pm to Powerman
Posted on 7/1/26 at 8:03 pm to Powerman
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Patriot Act.
Incorrect. The Privacy Act of 1974 permits federal usage of personal data for any law enforcement purpose, which, as you probably know, is tens of thousands of pages of laws passed by congress every year, with constitutionally questionable interpretations that spawn out of it. Some of the recent USSC rulings have seemed to ignore that, but that was a key point of a couple of privacy exams I took.
Everyone that signs up for FB, IG, X, Amazon, and any other platform, that they use for "free" for benefits, is paying through tracking. Why do you think there isn't an option to pay FaceBook $10 a month to not track you? Because your tracking tendencies are worth more than that.
I posit that the bigger issue (and this may get dorky) is that people don't realize that when they connect to store/mall wifi, they are accepting terms that permit tracking of their movement, where they linger, etc. That's done with BT and with Wifi. Turn on VPN, they still have your IED, and know who you are. But nobody cares.
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 8:06 pm to RummelTiger
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Man, y’all really hate data centers.
Well, yeah.
They’ve been told to, after all.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 8:39 pm to Powerman
Agree. They are not going away. Cannot believe Trump is letting it happen on his watch. We will all remember this.
The problem though is we have to keep up with the other countries that may even be farther ahead already in regards to these data centers
The problem though is we have to keep up with the other countries that may even be farther ahead already in regards to these data centers
Posted on 7/1/26 at 8:44 pm to RummelTiger
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 8:46 pm to kingbob
Ai, Ring doorbell, traffic cams, redlight cams, OnStar, it never stops. The best part is some of these you pay a subscription, lol. With OnStar, you "get it for free the first 3 years" like nobody will realize it's factored into the MSRP.
This post was edited on 7/1/26 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 7/1/26 at 8:56 pm to Ailsa
The goal of the modern social engineer is not to create better people, but to create a better "society."
The distinction is that with enough supervision and enough algorithms in place we can stop crime before it happens. (think: Minority Report.)
The modern social planner is all in on delivering less and charging more. It's easy to deliver when people's expectations are sufficiently lowered. This is the goal of centralization. When all your needs are met and your wants are irrelevant.
The distinction is that with enough supervision and enough algorithms in place we can stop crime before it happens. (think: Minority Report.)
The modern social planner is all in on delivering less and charging more. It's easy to deliver when people's expectations are sufficiently lowered. This is the goal of centralization. When all your needs are met and your wants are irrelevant.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:04 pm to Ailsa
Right, dumb azz. Neglect what’s coming. It’ll go away ????
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:12 pm to LemmyLives
Go check the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution and then the Mosaic Theory.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:37 pm to RummelTiger
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The melt over data centers is real.
I am not an expert in this area.
However, if we can now put vast amounts of data into a tiny microchip, what else is the need for these huge data centers?
There is an NSA data center in Utah that was supposed to be able to collect and follow every electric communication and transaction in America.
I am truly curious as I do not understand what all of these other ones are for?
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:43 pm to RummelTiger
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Don't care about META.
Etc...
With what I do, I gave up on avoiding surveillance a while ago.
Textbook "How to become North Korea"
Posted on 7/1/26 at 11:00 pm to Powerman
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I don't take anything OP says seriously but the expansion of the surveillance state is something to be concerned with.
There are a few layers you have to get through to get to data centers in this equation.
I agree with the problem the surveillance state poses, but you have republicans pushing for FISA renewal. The ship has sailed so far you can't even see it at this point. It is probably one of my biggest issues with his presidency. It needs to end but there are few people in congress actually fighting it.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:41 am to Ailsa
It’s 100% true
Posted on 7/2/26 at 2:41 am to littleavery1948
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Textbook "How to become North Korea"
Unfortunately there isn't much he can do about it
We've been sold out. Authoritarianism is coming. It might be a bipolar switch between left and right but at some point it doesn't matter.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:07 am to kingbob
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The melt over the ever growing surveillance state isn’t real enough.
That battle has been lost for years.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:12 am to Ailsa
If the same folks forecasting this so called surveillance capitalism are also running Hollywood and planning out their movie release schedule, then why worry?
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:15 am to LemmyLives
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Everyone that signs up for FB, IG, X, Amazon, and any other platform, that they use for "free" for benefits, is paying through tracking. Why do you think there isn't an option to pay FaceBook $10 a month to not track you? Because your tracking tendencies are worth more than that. I posit that the bigger issue (and this may get dorky) is that people don't realize that when they connect to store/mall wifi, they are accepting terms that permit tracking of their movement, where they linger, etc. That's done with BT and with Wifi. Turn on VPN, they still have your IED, and know who you are. But nobody cares.
What is this, 2010?
Why are people even pretending to care about this now? The point of no return on the surveillance state was a long time ago.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:15 am to Timeoday
Give the world less data - as much as you can pay cash
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:22 am to Ailsa
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:30 am to RummelTiger
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If Amazon wants to track my purchases of random shite, then cool. If Google wants to track my "find pics of sydney sweeney", then cool. Don't care about META. Etc... With what I do, I gave up on avoiding surveillance a while ago.
Awesome!!!
I didn’t, and won’t.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:35 am to Ag Zwin
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Man, y’all really hate data centers.
Well, yeah.
They’ve been told to, after all.
....By the chinese. Neville Roy Singham, a US born tech billionaire living in china, is spending millions on a network of NGOs to spread negative information on US AI to help chini win the race.
And many clowns are swallowing this hook line and sinker. Their time would be better spent learning Mandarin....they are gonna need it
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