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The real reason behind data centers is “surveillance capitalism”

Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:50 pm
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“We're not gonna move ahead with the data centre — I reject the idea that we have to be slaves to surveillance capitalism in order to participate in the modern economy”

“So the message to any company out there should be, if you wanna have a thoughtful, human-centered approach to technology, come to Manitoba 'cause that's what we're interested in”

This really should make you wonder about all the thousands of data centers being rapidly put up in America. You don’t need that many data centers for AI… The surveillance state is being built, right now

I show in the video there are already hundreds of hyper scale data centers in America where they are either dedicated to, or a portion of them is dedicated to, surveillance of American for things like purchases

It’s already happening
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:51 pm to
The melt over data centers is real.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:52 pm to
I don't take anything OP says seriously but the expansion of the surveillance state is something to be concerned with.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:54 pm to
The melt over the ever growing surveillance state isn’t real enough.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:57 pm to
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I don't take anything OP says seriously but the expansion of the surveillance state is something to be concerned with.


You know for a fact it's for surveillance?
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:00 pm to
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You know for a fact it's for surveillance?

Some of it absolutely is even if it doesn't appear to be so on the surface. It's surveillance run by private entities. Unless you think that Google, Meta, X, Amazon aren't surveilling you and sharing all of your data with intelligence agencies (they are)

Palantir can't run without data centers. Part of what they do is surveillance of American citizens.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:03 pm to
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Unless you think that Google, Meta, X, Amazon aren't surveilling you and sharing all of your data with intelligence agencies (they are)


No shite they are.

If Amazon wants to track my purchases of random shite, then cool.

If Google wants to track my "find pics of sydney sweeney", then cool.

Don't care about META.

Etc...

With what I do, I gave up on avoiding surveillance a while ago.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:06 pm to
It was inevitable after the Patriot Act.

I don't think our biggest problem in the country is a lack of surveillance. I'd say we likely have too much already. Privacy concerns are a real thing. You might not be aware of how much it has intensified in recent years.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:23 pm to
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data centers


for or against ....

Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:25 pm to
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The melt over the ever growing surveillance state isn’t real enough.

By the time real damage is exposed...it'll be too late...and it's the taxpayer who's on the hook for all of the tax abatement's to build these monstrosities.
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Data centers produce continuous low-frequency noise at <20 Hz, which is below normal human hearing. It’s comes from their mechanical cooling systems, power generators and more. It is extremely difficult to block and it travels through solid objects including walls, floors, even the ground

This continuous frequency causes permanent hearing damage, vestibular (balance) issues, elevated cortisol levels, stress, chronic fatigue, headaches, sleep disturbances, cardiovascular and respiratory problems, vibroacoustic disease that is thickening of heart structures and severe physical and psychological distress

The county is already facing a high mental health crisis and now these data centers will add to it with this low content frequency that no one can hear

This is extremely dangerous and something that is definitely going to impact the country nationally
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:43 pm to
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With what I do, I gave up on avoiding surveillance a while a


There are other concerns...If there is a data center that builds not far from your home...your property value decreases substantially, water pressure to your home decreases and your electric and water bills are higher. There is constant loud humming and bright lights to light up your home all night. Would that concern you?
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:54 pm to
Asking whether or not the Data Centers are for “surveillance” is akin to asking whether AI is for Military applications. Because given that these extraordinary powers have the potential to do extraordinary good, as well as evil, we are assured that those powers WILL be developed and employed. Like a gun, it depends on whose hand that gun is in.

The one thing that we can all agree on is that CONTROL will be the narrative and operational principle of the coming, new civilizational paradigm. Both the Marxist and Capitalists see that it’s the only way forward. And given the acquiescence of extraordinary power, such requires extraordinary control.

Prepare to get your “Number “ and worship the “Beast” (well-meaning World Government), and pray that in respect to the Eschatological narrative, that Jesus is there to step in and take control “for the sake of the Elect”…when it turns on for our resistance. It’s an arse kicking any way we cut it, but the “fiery trial that shall try (think ‘refine’) our faith “ will push us to the next level. I.e., ‘Heaven’.

IMO, of course. Which is worth zilch in the big picture.

Lord come quickly.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
10174 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:59 pm to
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Asking whether or not the Data Centers are for “surveillance” is akin to asking whether AI is for Military applications. Because given that these extraordinary powers have the potential to do extraordinary good, as well as evil, we are assured that those powers WILL be developed and employed. Like a gun, it depends on whose hand that gun is in.

The one thing that we can all agree on is that CONTROL will be the narrative and operational principle of the coming, new civilizational paradigm. Both the Marxist and Capitalists see that it’s the only way forward. And given the acquiescence of extraordinary power, such requires extraordinary control.

Prepare to get your “Number “ and worship the “Beast” (well-meaning World Government), and pray that in respect to the Eschatological narrative, that Jesus is there to step in and take control “for the sake of the Elect”…when it turns on for our resistance. It’s an arse kicking any way we cut it, but the “fiery trial that shall try (think ‘refine’) our faith “ will push us to the next level. I.e., ‘Heaven’.

IMO, of course. Which is worth zilch in the big picture.

Lord come quickly.


Well said.
Posted by Timeoday
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 5:02 pm to
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I don't take anything OP says seriously but the expansion of the surveillance state is something to be concerned with.


Been saying it for years. They want to know everything. Now go read "3 Felonies A Day" and let that sink in.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 5:04 pm to
PS: I would not be surprised if full truth be told, those UAP Aliens might be the ‘puppeteers’ pulling the CONTROL strings. It is obvious that given the MASSIVE powers of AI, that traditional methods of warfare determining ideological supremacy, will be suicidal and functionally obsolete. They know this and wouldn’t be there had not they jumped the Fermi Paradox hurdle.

I know. Cray-cray. More mud on the wall why not.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 5:37 pm to
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The real reason behind data centers is “surveillance capitalism”
Two things can be true at once. AI is a potentially great tool.

But AI's ability to "intrude" is analogous to a "most trusted advisor" passing one's most private revelations to anyone willing to pay for them.

Unlike web search engines,
AI .. requires .. tracking elements tied to personal accounts. Those in turn tag to your MAC address. And unlike search engines, AI exchanges tend to be more conversational, detailed, and revealing. We've seen examples of AI's ability to analyze posting style, belief sets, political positions, and even IQ estimates of posters here. It is a safe bet that AI aggregates such things on every user based on interactions. The only question is what it does with the info.

I don't routinely use AI at this point.
But when it first emerged, I engaged various platforms on issues like Anthropogenic Climate Change, CV19 zoonosis, etc. assessing which was more "woke" than the other. I'd breakdown AI answers through a series of questions, with the normal conclusion of the AI source "admitting" its initial position was wrong.

Great, it was learning.
The question is, what was it learning. From that point, response patterns in my queries appeared to moderate ... until I got others to put the same prompt to the same engine side-by-side, with significantly different (and leftist) answers (the AI default). So, extrapolating default answers to an AI base "belief," AI did not "believe" what it was telling me. It answered in ways it believed I would find more favorable ... give the customer what he wants. Outside my account, despite it admitting its positions were incorrect, it returned to them.

Just an example of AI gleaning information about users and their POV and preferences.

Anyway, if you run your taxes and tax questions through AI (e.g., Gemini or ChatGPT) it retains your financial info forever. Imagine the potential ad value of that aggregate info amongst a population to retailers financial institutions. If your lawyer runs questions about your case through AI and inadvertently ties your name to it, attorney-client privilege goes out the window. Curious about "BlueChew"? AI ties you to that inquiry extrapolated to impotence. Gemini communicates your presumed aging/impotency, and Google targets Ads accordingly. ChatGPT does the same with MS/Bing. Worse yet if you engage on a Chinese AI platform.

Run for office, or somehow oppose their interests, MS or Google lobbyists say "Fine, but understand, we have a ton of info on you."
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 5:15 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24127 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 6:00 pm to
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With what I do, I gave up on avoiding surveillance a while ago.

So because you don’t value your rights or care companies triangulating your activities and tracking you everywhere you go for no functional reason whatsoever using flock cameras we should all deal with it including any children or grandchildren you might eventually have?

Your rights when given away don’t come back.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
11841 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 6:05 pm to
Flock and Flock-style cameras, combined with the all these data centers under construction, will effectively render America the second largest prison in human history (behind the USSR) once they're all turned on.
Posted by IndianPower
Louisiana
Member since May 2021
2073 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 7:33 pm to
Dig your head from your arse.

The shite is real and you have no idea how biggly.

Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
93780 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 7:47 pm to
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Dig your head from your arse.


Man, y’all really hate data centers.

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