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re: The American public has lost its will to fight and win wars
Posted on 8/14/26 at 9:45 am to dchog
Posted on 8/14/26 at 9:45 am to dchog
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Sounds like trying to stop the spread of communism in Vietnam and to the ends of the earth.
That worked out really well.
And look what happens when we don't fight communism, they win elections.
You auburn fricks sure are dumb.
Invite muslims in and they do what? Win elections.
I suggest you listen to Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Being in denial won't save you.
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 9:48 am
Posted on 8/14/26 at 9:59 am to KTrain915
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Can you give me a good reason for us to be fighting this war?
Regardless of this war, the OP is correct. Americans really don’t have the stomach for seeing things through to the end. They can sprint, but don’t ask them to stick it out.
And I’m not in favor of any of this really, or might I say I’m not in favor of going halfway into any engagement, of handcuffing yourself from all out victory. You either go all in and crush them completely or you don’t engage at all.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:03 am to dgnx6
You can kill a physical body.
You cannot kill an ideology.
You cannot kill an ideology.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:13 am to PorkSammich
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Spending $40 billion only to end up begging the enemy for a deal will cause Americans to not support it.
Most would like to see $40 billion spent to help our lives at home.
This is the issue more than anything.
We spend tens of billions of dollars bombing a Middle Eastern country and destroying their infrastructure with the hope of a regime change.
We then get a temporary regime change and spend tens of billions of dollars rebuilding the infrastructure (that we previously destroyed) for the new regime.
The new regime eventually gets overtaken through elections because the people there don’t really want change and we’re back at square one.
Rinse and repeat.
Meanwhile, American infrastructure is crumbling all over the country and Americans have to battle through skyrocketing costs of everything due to inflation.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:15 am to TigerIron
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Our perpetual wars in the Middle East drive more Muslims to the West you idiot. We invade, destroy, destabilize, and then let them in as "refugees". Somalis, Afghans, Iraqis, Syrians, it happens over and over.
People living in an oppressive shithole will take any excuse to go some place better. The EU invited them not as refugees, but as labor. They got enemies of Western culture who were incompatible parasites instead.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:21 am to udtiger
Eric Metaxas' new Book "Revolution" will likely lay the rationale for the only war that will truly determine this Nation's fate. The coming 'Civil War' within our own Borders, to determine which Ideology (Socialist v Capitalist) holds forma power. You have to have your head in the sand not to see this coming.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:58 am to DinoSpumoni
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China already has nukes. Shall we deploy the fleet and set the course to Shanghai? I assume your platoon will be the first to storm the beaches, right?
China understands MAD and has more to lose.
Iran does not understand MAD and has much less to lose.
Surely you can see the difference.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:03 am to LSUFanHouston
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Need to conquer Iran for that
You willing to commit your sons for that?
What else should I "commit" my adult son or any adult for that matter to do?
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:23 am to udtiger
How do you get public support for war?
You get support by:
Making the case for war, publicly stating why it’s necessary, and convincing the American public.
Getting Congressional approval for a war declaration and for funding.
You get support by:
Making the case for war, publicly stating why it’s necessary, and convincing the American public.
Getting Congressional approval for a war declaration and for funding.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 12:13 pm to ManBearSharkReb
lol the irony
Posted on 8/14/26 at 1:08 pm to Timeoday
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Military recruiting is at an all time high. You must not think much.
Job market is arse. Nowhere to go except the military or work at a dead end fast food joint.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 1:57 pm to Boomer65
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Job market is arse. Nowhere to go except the military or work at a dead end fast food joint.
Stock market at an all time high, wages up, and jobs are everywhere.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 2:40 pm to dgnx6
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The Iranian constitution tasks the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) with an ideological mission of jihad to expand God’s sovereignty worldwide.
Iran is a Persian country that made the mistake of hiring Arabs(Hezbollah) to help fight Iraq in the 1980’s. Hezbollah won’t leave Iran until they are forced out and then the people can take back their country. To truly end this war Hezbollah has to be taken out in Lebanon and Syria. Hezbollah fighters are not from Iran and don’t speak the same language as Iranians.
We can bomb and destroy everything in Iran and that won’t make a huge difference as long as Hezbollah is still around. Israel has been fighting against Hezbollah for over 40 years and the country of Iran off and on for about a year, but their main target is still Hezbollah.
Trump made the mistake of fighting Iran and not taking out Hezbollah
The Iranian people are not dumb and low IQ. The average IQ of an Iranian man is over 106. The average in the US is under 100. Iran would be a thriving country and probably an ally without the Arab terrorist controlling their country.
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 8/14/26 at 7:42 pm to Cobbvol
What’s the relevance? You say Iran is the largest state sponsor of terror in the world. I disagree. It is China. Iran is nothing more than a proxy of China in the grand scheme of geopolitics.
Who cares if China has more to lose? If you, as an individual, actually care about demolishing state sponsored terrorism, why not boot up and head to China? You can stage in South Korea for your righteous battle. Cut the head of the snake off, not its tail.
The end result is the same. If we choose to take the gloves off, it’s a bad day to be a CCP or an IRGC. It also means many young American men, mostly white, will die. I don’t think our country needs more young white, masculine men, dying in bulk. We are living the results of that right now, and I think we can all agree, our society is worse off as a result.
It is time for the old guard to call it day and sacrifice themselves instead. What say you? Are you willing to die for your beliefs? Or just sent others to die for it instead?
Who cares if China has more to lose? If you, as an individual, actually care about demolishing state sponsored terrorism, why not boot up and head to China? You can stage in South Korea for your righteous battle. Cut the head of the snake off, not its tail.
The end result is the same. If we choose to take the gloves off, it’s a bad day to be a CCP or an IRGC. It also means many young American men, mostly white, will die. I don’t think our country needs more young white, masculine men, dying in bulk. We are living the results of that right now, and I think we can all agree, our society is worse off as a result.
It is time for the old guard to call it day and sacrifice themselves instead. What say you? Are you willing to die for your beliefs? Or just sent others to die for it instead?
Posted on 8/14/26 at 7:54 pm to DinoSpumoni
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You say Iran is the largest state sponsor of terror in the world. I disagree. It is China. Iran is nothing more than a proxy of China in the grand scheme of geopolitics.
Stopped reading here. You are some kind of mixed up on this topic.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 8:48 pm to udtiger
We were once twisted steel. Now we are freaking losers watching our wife getting banged by immigrant losers.
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 8/14/26 at 8:52 pm to Shamoan
Glad to know that’s how you see yourself. You, yourself.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 8:52 pm to udtiger
Stop lying to get us into wars with lies like The Gulf of Tonkin and Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 8/14/26 at 8:56 pm to davyjones
I identify as American. Sorry for your hurt feelings.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 9:45 pm to Timeoday
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Stock market at an all time high, wages up, and jobs are everywhere.
Easily manipulated Stock market does not equate to healthy job market. Wages up? Now you're just trolling.
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