re: SARS-COV-2 Vaccines and Neurodegenerative Disease

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do you know how many proteins have a glycine zipper? its a highly common motif related to forming channels in membranes. you wouldnt exist without them. the problem isnt with the glycine zipper itself, but consequences arise from mutation of that domain.

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Somewhat fair. I don't know if you're fully refuting the point they're making or just re-directing to the general prevalence of glycine zippers without tackling their argument directly. They use it in a specific context with relation to PrP, but I don't have the background to take this further.

They also make subsequent points about effects on the spleen over several paragraphs with a lot of technical tidbits we haven't addressed... but which I think is probably too time consuming for us to cover... though I'd welcome your input.

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this is my point on why its nonsense. the spike protein is short lived. it is not persisting for long periods of time. it just doesnt persist anywhere near long enough for multiple generations of it to increasingly misfold and mutate enough to go prion. amyloid aggregation is multifactorial, its genetic and environmental. its genes + chronic inflammation.

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One of the main concerns with the vaccines is that we face a potentially never ending series of boosters. *If* it were a matter of getting a one time dose of a vaccine (which still might cause various diseases / damage based on the individual's genetics... as vaccines sometimes do) I would cede the point to you, while still maintaining the vax is not a safe, proven product as the gov't and various leaders say (without proof... as that takes time, as we discussed). That, however, is not how things are playing out. Each new booster does potentially add to the aggregate damage of previous jabs, and that *might* push the scales over time towards disease.

As you say, both genetics and environment, plus chronic inflammation play a role. Maybe I'd make out fine, but I have a friend with Crohn's who has taken every shot, and still contracted every main version of covid (original, delta and omicron so far)... Maybe the added stresses of another shot every 4 months will push him over the hump and he gets Alzheimer's or similar in 10 years. That's speculation, of course, but it's something the gov't and health officials should be giving some thought to... And I'm pretty sure they aren't since they are somewhat falsely saying an unproven product is safe.

In an unrelated example, even pro fighters in the UFC and boxing sometimes have to take off months at a time from full contact to avoid inflammation from becoming chronic inflammation and brain damage. And you admit chronic inflammation plays a role, so repeated boosters are potentially bad for a lot of people... though how much so remains to be seen.

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im ok with concerns over vaccines and rushing it and all that. but that is different than this article claiming "we will see alarming increases" in those neurodegen diseases due to spike protein acting like a prion. be weary of the vax as you please, but embracing unsupported fear propaganda is just as bad as praying to lord fauci.

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If they stressed "we will see alarming increases" then I'd agree with you that's sensationalist and they don't have the proof yet. I re-skimmed some of the article, though, and mostly see statements like "we might (or can) see increases"... and I think those statements are fair. I don't rule out I might've missed what you take issue with. Regardless, I think such safety concerns should be treated VERY seriously by the gov't and health professionals as they continue to collect data since they are forcing people to take the jab(s) or face ever increasing penalties (like potentially losing jobs... not to mention the alleged camps in Washington state).

Anyway, I'm calling it a night. fwiw, I thought you were overly dismissive to the articles initially, but in your replies to me I have found you to be generally reasonable and fair-- even if I don't fully buy everything you say. Sometimes there's a lack of civility in this place, so I wanted to mention that since I care less about being right than getting to the truth.

All I know is the experts have been wrong at almost every turn with this pandemic. I am not trusting anyone at this point in time.

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teeming with nonsense fear propaganda

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Kinda like Covid as a whole right?

I’ll keep being hesitant.

Epoch Times is not a legitimate news source. Its standards are in line with supermarket tabloids but it is more dangerous. It is owned by the Falun Gong and its intent is not to inform but rather to advance its goals in China. One way to do that? Keep the right-leaning American conspiracy theorists wound up.

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Unfortunately, we won’t know whether the vaccines caused this increase, because there will usually be a long time separation between the vaccination event and the disease diagnosis.

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Like for how long?

Like for maybe right around 75 f*cking YEARS?

It is amazing how much the left and right are the same when it comes to fear porn. Both sides grasp onto whatever worst news they can if it gives them validation for them to say “I told you!”. Whether it’s the left having websites gloating over people dying without the vaccine to the right yearning for news of complications of the vaccines. It is the exact same twisted mindset.

FIFY

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There's literally no evidence or possible mechanism to suggest the vax does not depletes proginitor B cells.

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There's literally no evidence or possible mechanism to suggest the vax depletes proginitor B cells.

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Jesus Christ. Imagine being a doctor and believing it’s incumbent upon the end user to prove a treatment is dangerous. Ho Lee Fuk we’ve reached peak moron as a society.

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I don’t doubt it for a second

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You are the same as the “follow the science” people. You should doubt everything. Not just believe things you hope are true so that you will be “right”. You are a sheep as well for automatically believing anything. Every source of information has a bias. It’s your job to research both sides.

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Parkinson’s disease, CKD, ALS and Alzheimer’s

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Statins to lower cholesterol can lead to Parkinson's as well as Guillain-Barre Syndrome. Cholesterol is necessary for the production of myelin which surrounds and protects neuronal axons.

Cannabis can increase the myelination of the axon.

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Cannabinoids may directly enhance myelin repair by acting on oligodendrocyte progenitors, or they may act indirectly by inhibiting the immune response that might be contributing to demyelination or hampering remyelination.

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Nicotine reduces demyelination of the axon.

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Nicotine exposure also suppresses disease development on adoptive transfer of autoimmune T cells. At the histopathological level, nicotine exposure curtails the infiltration of inflammatory cells into the CNS and the destruction of myelin and axons.

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Parkinson's disease (PD), also known as Parkinson disease, is a degenerative disorder of the central nervous system that often impairs motor skills and speech.[51] Parkinson's disease belongs to a group of conditions called movement disorders.[52] It is characterized by muscle rigidity, tremor, a slowing of physical movement (bradykinesia), and in extreme cases, a loss of physical movement (akinesia). The primary symptoms are the results of decreased stimulation of the motor cortex by the basal ganglia, normally caused by the insufficient formation and action of dopamine, which is produced in the dopaminergic neurons of the brain. Secondary symptoms may include high level cognitive dysfunction and subtle language problems. PD is both chronic and progressive.

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Demyelination is the act of demyelinating, or the loss of the myelin sheath insulating the nerves. When myelin degrades, conduction of signals along the nerve can be impaired or lost, and the nerve eventually withers. This leads to certain neurodegenerative disorders like multiple sclerosis and chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy.

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