re: Rand Paul going to Canada for surgery

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Most Canadian hospitals are privately owned. This hospital is privately owned they get most of its revenue from the Ontario Government. They accept Ontario insurance and if you read the article they gets most of its funding from the government.

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You keep repeating this as if it's some kinda gotcha. Why do you think this sets Shouldice apart from American hospitals in this aspect? Do you know what the payer mix is for Shouldice? How many are out of pocket? The payer mix for an average U.S. hospital?

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I guess he can't find healthcare in the US to suit his needs.

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Or he's electing to have his surgery performed at a world-renowned hospital which happens to be the only one that specifically treats hernias. And he's fortunate enough to do so out of pocket.

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It is a private hospital

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Wow.

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Rand Paul is paying out of pocket at a private hospital and genius liberals claim this means socialism is good.

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Shouldice Hernia Hospital markets itself as "the global leader in non-mesh hernia repair," according to the clinic's website.

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If I had a hernia I would go anywhere that had non-mesh hernia repair. Research yourself if you don't know why.

If the loon leftist prog neighbor didn't break his ribs and puncture Rand's lung; Rand's personal health would not be advertised and used as a cognitively impaired 'gotcha'.

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This is very interesting. I thought conservatives and Liberatards said Canada's healthcare was awful with long waiting lists.

I guess he likes how Canadians live longer than us and pay less for healthcare as measured by spending on healthcare as a percentage of GDP.

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there are actually 2 health Care system in Canada. The one the poor schmuks have to use that leaves you on a list needing surgery hoping that you'll die before it's scheduled, and the one that wealthy Canadians purchase private health insurance to access. The private one is pretty good, the public one is terrible

This hospital is accessible to the average Canadian as well. It's covered by the same system that Rand and stupid fricks like him claim don't work. As far as wait times... says at the bottom of the page no referrals are required and walk ins are welcome so I guess that answers that question.

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Rand Paul is paying out of pocket at a private hospital and genius liberals claim this means socialism is good.?

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Ontario Patients
Ontario’s Hospital Insurance Plan (OHIP) covers all costs to Ontario residents for public ward rate hospital accommodation and physician services.
Semi-private rooms are available at an additional cost. Patients with private insurance may be eligible for reimbursement on submission of paperwork we provide to you on discharge. We do not bill insurance companies directly on your behalf.
All charges are payable on admission by credit card, bank draft or cash.

Non-Ontario Canadian Resident Patients
Provincial health insurance plans cover all costs to Canadian residents for public ward rate hospital accommodation and physician services. Hospital ward charges are billed directly to respective provincial health ministries, with applicable physician services subject to payment by patients on admission. These fees may be submitted to provincial health plans for reimbursement based on paperwork provided to you on discharge. The amount you will be reimbursed will be dependent on your provinces applicable schedule of medical fees.
All qualifying patients will receive an admission letter with a breakdown of fees specific to their surgical procedure and related hospital stay.
Semi-private rooms are available at an additional cost. Patients with private insurance may be eligible for reimbursement on submission of paperwork we provide to you on discharge. We do not bill insurance companies directly on your behalf.
All charges are payable on admission by credit card, bank draft or cash.


US and International Patients
All patients who have submitted their medical questionnaire for assessment and have been qualified for surgery will receive a letter outlining our estimated fees specific to their stated surgical procedure and related hospital stay. Patients with private insurance coverage may be eligible for reimbursement on submission of paperwork provided to you. We do not bill insurance companies on your behalf, however, Shouldice Hospital has no-cost consultants trained to help you with your claim (as foreign insurance coverage is complicated we encourage all patients to pre-approve their coverage prior to admission).
All charges are payable on admission by credit card, bank draft or cash.

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That's how it works. Most facilities are private. The government pays the bill which is funded by taxpayers. Did you really think all the hospitals, clinics, and medical personnel were all government run? Why don't you actually research shite. So he's paying out of pocket but he's still using a facility that probably gets a good deal of revenue from the government.

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As far as wait times... says at the bottom of the page no referrals are required and walk ins are welcome so I guess that answers that question. 

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You guess wrong.

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guess he believes that Canada has superior health care.

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You are confusing two issues. One is whether the Canadian system can offer a patient certain things that our system, mired in corporate profits and liability considerations cannot. This is true. The other is the long term financial viability of such a system, particularly since the system south of their border has now been replaced by Obamacare.

Case in point, if I was an American patient with atrial fibrillation I would absolutely seek out a Canadian electrophysiologist to see if I was a candidate for ablation instead of mindlessly taking a NOAC or Warfarin for the rest of my life.

And when it comes to surgery the skill of the individual surgeon is a major consideration.

At any rate, as Obamacare continues to damage our medical system you will only see the amount of medical tourism increase.