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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:33 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:33 am to BayouBengal51
Remember when Israel was okay with the 2 party solution and the Palestinians said no then rallied their Muslim brothers and declared war on Israel only to get shite stomped?
Yeah. You had your chance at a state, you rejected it, declared war and lost. You don’t get your state. Sorry. To the victor goes the spoils.
Yeah. You had your chance at a state, you rejected it, declared war and lost. You don’t get your state. Sorry. To the victor goes the spoils.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:35 am to BayouBengal51
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Donald J. Trump
@real Donald Trump
Negotiations with the Islamic Republic of Iran are proceeding nicely!
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Iranian dude:
"we are not signing any agreement with the US" and "no one can claim we are close to reaching an agreement." Iran separately stated to Tasnim they are now on the verge of "cancelling" the negotiations completely.
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Progress in U.S.-Iran negotiations has stalled. Both sides are entrenched on the nuclear program and economic relief for Tehran. - Wall Street Journal
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:36 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:40 am to beerJeep
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Remember when Israel was okay with the 2 party solution and the Palestinians said no then rallied their Muslim brothers and declared war on Israel only to get shite stomped? Yeah. You had your chance at a state, you rejected it, declared war and lost. You don’t get your state. Sorry. To the victor goes the spoils.
Exactly.
I still don't know why Israel gave back any of the territory it won during the 6 day war when they wrecked shop. Why they bent the knee and allowed a tumor like Gaza to keep existing and becoming a huge cancer that needs to be cut out is a mystery to me.
I would have told the world to frick off after wrecking the muslim world's military after being attacked from all sides and capturing that territory. You think Egypt would have given land back to Israel had the outcome gone the other way?
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:51 am to BayouBengal51
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Progress in U.S.-Iran negotiations has stalled. Both sides are entrenched on the nuclear program and economic relief for Tehran. - Wall Street Journal
They talks did not stall. A stall means that there was progress being made. There was NEVER any progress being made.
Anyone on this planet that thought for even a second that Iran would give in is a moron. Anyone that thought the talks would be honored by Iran is a moron. The world would be a better place if the media never even acknowledged that these stupid talks were even taken place because they and everyone should have know they were going NOWEHERE.
What a was of ink or electrons and peoples time.
If I was the admin of this website every post that mentions the "talks" would have been deleted.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:56 am to omegaman66
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The world would be a better place if the media never even acknowledged that these stupid talks were even taken place because they and everyone should have know they were going NOWEHERE.
Hard to do that when the president tweets about it multiple times a day.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:00 pm to LegendInMyMind
Sometime you have to do hard things. Let Trump tweet his arse off. That doesn't mean you have to posted all over the news as if tRGC would ever bend the knee to Trump. It is all BS theater paraded as real news.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:02 pm to Tigerstark
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Déjà vu all over again. Only question is what we are waiting on.
Might be waiting on the economic pressure to mount with the blockade.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:08 pm to Jbird
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Da fooking Jooos!
Keep up,the name calling, that helps identify whom the simpletons are. I am not calling out Jews as a group to be insulted (like you seem to be begging for).
However, it takes little investigation to determine that Netanyahu and the Israeli government are killing their neighbors, stealing their land, and corrupting the US government.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:14 pm to FlyDownTheField83
Something tells me you are gonna love Greater Israel....not
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:25 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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stealing their land
No one’s illegal on stolen land
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:32 pm to omegaman66
New column in The Free Press suggests that a main driver of Trump wanting a deal is that we are running out of munitions. We hear that all the time and it is usually poo-pooed. But I’m just relating what I read.
https://www.thefp.com/p/the-real-reason-trump-needs-a-deal-with-iran
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But there are other factors pushing the president to cut a deal. The military is running out of precision munitions and missile interceptors. This has left the U.S. and its allies vulnerable to Iran’s short-range ballistic missiles. “We have degraded Iran’s missile stocks, but not enough where they can’t threaten the Gulf,” one military official told me.
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The challenges in restarting the war are not just defensive. The U.S. is also facing a major shortfall of standoff weapons, like the Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS), which can target military facilities along Iran’s coastline well out of range of the regime’s anti-missile capabilities. While the U.S. still has plenty of Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAMs), these weapons are shorter range and are usually fired from low-flying aircraft. Iran’s air defense systems are useless against America’s and Israel’s advanced weapons. But as Iran proved in April, it can still down aircraft that fly lower to the ground.
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The Iran war has exposed America’s neglected defense industrial base. Trump may have hoped that the war’s initial decapitation of Iran’s leadership on February 28 would have collapsed the regime entirely. But that is not what happened. Instead, Iran reestablished its capability to command and control both its proxies in Iraq, Yemen, and Lebanon as well as its own Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. As a result, a quick war soon dragged out into a longer one as the missiles and interceptors necessary to wage that war effectively depleted.
https://www.thefp.com/p/the-real-reason-trump-needs-a-deal-with-iran
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:37 pm to FlyDownTheField83
And all those terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah are innocent.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:39 pm to FlyDownTheField83
Killing terrorists( the neighbors you speak of) stealing land (the land won in a militaristic disagreement) corrupting the us government (un, who, eu all corrupt globalist organizations influencing our politicians, china anybody)
Sure buddy…. You are right over the target!
Sure buddy…. You are right over the target!
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:42 pm to Jbird
Source is Al Jazeera, so take it with a grain of salt. However, if that article is true, that sounds like we are about to let Israel off the chain for a bit in regards to the Lebanon stuff.
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A U.S. official tells Al Jazeera that Hezbollah ignored repeated requests to stop firing at Israel, including a final warning, and says Israel will respond to attacks on its forces and civilians: “This is not the Biden administration.”
The official says Hezbollah has launched 1,000 drones and 700 rockets since April 17 to obstruct Lebanon-Israel negotiations, adding that the group bears full responsibility for the current escalation.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:43 pm to BayouBengal51
Lebanon wants Hezbollah erased
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:44 pm to TDFreak
This is Iran's Foreign Ministry that has repeatedly made this statement that they will never, ever turn over the nuclear dust. Why would they make such an unequivocal statement if they ever planned to do so? How would they explain it to their people? While I assume they are dangling the possibility of agreeing to give up the dust in behind-the-scene negotiations, it's obvious that they are just doing so to get some upfront money from us, based on their mere words. Knowing full well that not a gram of dust will ever leave Iran voluntarily.
That being the case, why are we wasting our time talking to these people?
That being the case, why are we wasting our time talking to these people?
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:47 pm to hawgfaninc
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The funniest part about this entire conversation is that almost nobody in the region actually wants this right now.
Trying to force the Abraham Accords onto the Middle East in its current state would trigger an Arab Spring 2.0. Anyone pretending the region is stable enough for that is completely detached from reality.
Israelis want a free Iran.
Arab states want self preservation.
And much of the Arab world still politically survives by blaming Israel for everything.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:54 pm to TDFreak
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that no Iranian nuclear commitments and uranium handover exist or will exist in any draft agreement with the US, calling all reports that claim otherwise a "pure lie,"
Wait I was told a deal was imminent and Trump only makes the best deals!
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:58 pm to hawgfaninc
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Trying to force the Abraham Accords onto the Middle East in its current state would trigger an Arab Spring 2.0
So she’s saying our cia will lead and foment unrest like the first time?
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