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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 5/25/26 at 9:49 am to CovingtonCrooner
Posted on 5/25/26 at 9:49 am to CovingtonCrooner
Looks like the latest deal is off too.
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BREAKING: Iran's Foreign Ministry now officially confirms that no Iranian nuclear commitments and uranium handover exist or will exist in any draft agreement with the US, calling all reports that claim otherwise a "pure lie," making further talks pointless due to the US insistence on this issue. Based on that issue, the statement declares "we are not signing any agreement with the US" and "no one can claim we are close to reaching an agreement." Iran separately stated to Tasnim they are now on the verge of "cancelling" the negotiations completely.
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 9:59 am to TDFreak
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BREAKING: Iran's Foreign Ministry now officially confirms that no Iranian nuclear commitments and uranium handover exist or will exist in any draft agreement with the US, calling all reports that claim otherwise a "pure lie," making further talks pointless due to the US insistence on this issue. Based on that issue, the statement declares "we are not signing any agreement with the US" and "no one can claim we are close to reaching an agreement." Iran separately stated to Tasnim they are now on the verge of "cancelling" the negotiations completely.
Déjà vu all over again.
Only question is what we are waiting on.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:01 am to Tigerstark
You can’t deal with these people, either admit defeat and pull out, or crank up the bombing…
Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:03 am to TDFreak
Its obvious at this point, that there a people in Iran that are trying to nix this deal.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:05 am to Tigerstark
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Seems very likely to me something that was in the works didn’t happen and they pivoted. Don’t know if it was in part the weapons cache the Kurds kept, a high level defector who ended up not leading anti regime forces, a reneg by some other uprising leader. Hard to pinpoint. Maybe all of the above.
There was clearly lots of good planning initially and then we just sort of ran out of targets. So the plan had to have included something that didn’t materialize for whatever reason. Personally would have just kept bombing the smaller units and leadership when available to keep the pressure on but the damage to Arab infrastructure was putting pressure on us. We weren’t able to protect the region well enough for there to not be complications.
My guess is Russian/Chinese intelligence got advance indication that US/Israel was going to try a decapitation strike mission ahead of a popular uprising across a secular/liberal Persian and ethno-nationalist Kurdish axes. They let the Iranian government know and they did a purge on the Persian group while the Olympics were happening because they knew that was cover against the US moving up the operation.
We did our part too little too late and now the only option is taking them down outside rather than within.
This post was edited on 5/25/26 at 10:12 am
Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:12 am to Tigerstark
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Déjà vu all over again.
Only question is what we are waiting on.
We had a golden opportunity this weekend. The stock market is closed for 3 days. We should have started an all-out assault on Friday at 3:01 pm CDT.
Now, we'll have to wait until at least next Friday afternoon, but at this point it is probably best to just wait until July 3rd, which is the Friday of the next 3 day weekend.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:13 am to Diego Ricardo
You can never trust an Iranian government. Lying is a way of life and a means to an end with them.
They have been empowered since 1979 and spreading their terror ever since. No one has stood up to them since out of fear.
There can be no deal because all they understand is force. They took the ceasefire as a sign of weakness.
Bombs and boots on the ground are the only resolution now. Too much time has gone buy with the delay and delay till they don't think we are serious.
This goes back to them seeing the hate of the democrats toward Trump in the press and knowing they would be able to undercut him by delaying.
They are expert liars and if we don't finish this the right way then the world will be 10 times worse because it will be the lack of will just like in 1979.
Finish what we started to make our world safer for current and future generations.
America is the only country in the world with the skill to do it. Europe is a bunch of cowards and Russia and China have been helping support them.
This the moment in time where it gets better by finishing the job or worse because we make deals with liars. Carter should have dealt with this in the beginning.
Do what you said President Trump. This is your last term and the one chance to make America safer and show the world we mean what we say. Believe me China and Russia are watching along with the rest of the world.
They have been empowered since 1979 and spreading their terror ever since. No one has stood up to them since out of fear.
There can be no deal because all they understand is force. They took the ceasefire as a sign of weakness.
Bombs and boots on the ground are the only resolution now. Too much time has gone buy with the delay and delay till they don't think we are serious.
This goes back to them seeing the hate of the democrats toward Trump in the press and knowing they would be able to undercut him by delaying.
They are expert liars and if we don't finish this the right way then the world will be 10 times worse because it will be the lack of will just like in 1979.
Finish what we started to make our world safer for current and future generations.
America is the only country in the world with the skill to do it. Europe is a bunch of cowards and Russia and China have been helping support them.
This the moment in time where it gets better by finishing the job or worse because we make deals with liars. Carter should have dealt with this in the beginning.
Do what you said President Trump. This is your last term and the one chance to make America safer and show the world we mean what we say. Believe me China and Russia are watching along with the rest of the world.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:14 am to TulsaSooner78
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We had a golden opportunity this weekend. The stock market is closed for 3 days. We should have started an all-out assault on Friday at 3:01 pm CDT.
Now, we'll have to wait until at least next Friday afternoon, but at this point it is probably best to just wait until July 3rd, which is the Friday of the next 3 day weekend.
I gotta be completely honest: if we're making military decisions around the markets being closed then they are not important enough to us to ever have gotten involved in the first place.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:15 am to TDFreak
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Looks like the latest deal is off too.
Looks like there are multiple factions in Iran right now.
I wish they would just start shooting each other so we can get down to the real person capable of making a decision.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:17 am to TigerTiger12914
Above all, this shite proves that without a doubt the biggest failures have been the US presidents over the last 47 years. It’s a god damn shame the terror regime was even allowed to get to the level they are at now.
What a fricking abomination of decades of interwar level appeasement.
What a fricking abomination of decades of interwar level appeasement.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:29 am to beerJeep
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Above all, this shite proves that without a doubt the biggest failures have been the US presidents over the last 47 years. It’s a god damn shame the terror regime was even allowed to get to the level they are at now. What a fricking abomination of decades of interwar level appeasement.
You can’t leave problems for later. They just get worse. We have an opportunity here. I hope we don’t waste it. We likely won’t get a better one.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:36 am to beerJeep
My feelings exactly.
That idiot Bush Jr. had all the hardware there to take care of it when we did Iraq and didnt take care of it then. We were right there.
That idiot Bush Jr. had all the hardware there to take care of it when we did Iraq and didnt take care of it then. We were right there.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:58 am to hawgfaninc
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Let me remind you about Gaza:
In January 2025, Trump once put forward a request for a ceasefire and the return of the hostages. He even said that if Hamas didn’t cooperate, he would raise hell in Gaza. Remember? Hamas didn’t cooperate and backed out.
In September, Israel dropped a bomb in Doha, Qatar. Trump basically said, “Oops, I didn’t know.”
In the next ceasefire request, Hamas behaved and all hostages were returned by October.
The key to solving conflicts in the Middle East is not just force and bombs. It’s exposing Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and most importantly Britain and Europe, forcing them to stop their smart games. Trump knows exactly what he’s doing.
Trust the plan.
Free Iran
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:03 am to hawgfaninc
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Trump just turned the Abraham Accords into an accountability trap for the Gulf states and Iran walked right into it.
Gulf states like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey have never held Iran accountable is due to exposure. They share a neighborhood. They can't sanction, shame, or confront Iran while having zero security architecture binding them to the West or to each other.
The Abraham Accords change that math entirely. Once Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan, Egypt, and Turkey are signatories, they aren't just recognizing Israel they are locking themselves into a collective security posture.
A breach of the Iran deal becomes their problem to call out, not just America's or Israel's. You can't sign a normalization framework and then look the other way when your new partner Israel is threatened by a nuclear Iran. The accords create skin in the game.
If Iran violates the deal, the Gulf states aren't just silent bystanders anymore. They're co-signatories of the broader peace architecture. The political cost of looking away just went from zero to enormous.
That's why markets are surging and oil is dropping. The world is pricing in something it hasn't seen in decades, a Middle East where the neighbors themselves have a structural reason to enforce the peace.
Genius.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:09 am to beerJeep
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the biggest failures have been the US presidents over the last 47 years
This includes Trump's first term.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:25 am to TulsaSooner78
Trump is not helping things with all of these posts. He should just continue the negotiations with the relevant parties. These posts don't help the process, and likely cause unnecessary distraction or complication.
It seems as though Trump thinks these posts will somehow address public unrest or concern. In fact they do the opposite...
It seems as though Trump thinks these posts will somehow address public unrest or concern. In fact they do the opposite...
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:25 am to tigervet4
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:26 am to BayouBengal51
Awww, we sent some IRGC boys to their 72 goats last night.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:30 am to TulsaSooner78
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We had a golden opportunity this weekend. The stock market is closed for 3 days. We should have started an all-out assault on Friday at 3:01 pm CDT.
Now, we'll have to wait until at least next Friday afternoon, but at this point it is probably best to just wait until July 3rd, which is the Friday of the next 3 day weekend.
If we are truly allowing the whims of the markets to dictate military decision making — as opposed to being a tongue-in-cheek, coincidental, joke type deal about Donald's timing — we have already lost.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:31 am to BayouBengal51
Saudi Arabia is shitting on Trumps idea to get everyone onboard for the Abraham Accord. They are demanding a Palestinian State. Those muzzie bastards have a huge country with a shite load of open land. If they want the garbage of the Muslim world to have their own state, then they should partition part SA out for those rejects that apparently no other muslim country wants in their borders.
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