omegaman66

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Bullets get deflected by sticks a bit. People acting like this is impossible do not know what they are talking about. I hunt. I would expect it to penetrate most times (150 grain and up). But some percent it does not. :banghead:

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While not certain, I’d say the odds of specialty ammo is low given the profile of the shooter.

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150 grain 165 and 180 are the most common bullets used for deer hunting. Each has different weights so different velocities and different ft pounds. None of those are specialty rounds.

Also managed recoil isn't exactly all that rare.

And was the bullet ballistic tip? round nose? Pointed soft point?

None of that is specialty.

A 180 grain bullet has a thicker jacket than a 150 grain bullet. These things are all relevant and things we don't have the answer too.

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Those calculations are if you shoot the rifle exactly horizontal. But we wouldn't be shooting it flat. We'd be shooting it up so it is 2 or 3 inches high at 100 and drops back in at 200 or so. The first hundred yards it's climbing the 2 inches, the peak would be at 100 yards and then it would drop 1 inch to the 150 mark....

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Bullets never climb relative to the direction at exit.

The angle from the shooter to the target was used. When the bullet left the barrel it was traveling to where it hit. It was traveling higher than that and the bullet drop brought it down to the point of impact. At which point it would be traveling at an angle steeper than the path directly from the barrel to the point of impact.

All things are calculatable, but like I said. Largely not relevant as just calculate the angle from shooter to target and know the true angle will be a little bit steeper.

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If the gun was sighted precisely horizontal, you'd be correct. But it's not. You sight it in by making the bullet climb roughly the first half of the distance.

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Yes but that calculates the bullet pat relative to the line of sight through the scope. You need to calculate bullet angle. And to do that you calculate the bullet path relative to the line of sight of the barrel... not the scope which isn't even on the same path as the barrel. The barrel will always have an angle rising higher than the scope.

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Now we move on to the loss of energy from muzzle to impact. Any idea what that may be?

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Pretty easy to figure out if you know the ammo used. But we don't know that. So trajectory/velocity/ft pounds at any distance is not knowable without more information than I have seen.

The bullet trajectory is pretty stinking flat, but we'll calculate it anyway. Inverse sign of 1/1800 is .0344 degrees from line of sight from shooter. Combining the 2 we'd have .6.7 degrees from horizontal.

Not that I think it really matters but it appears you are making a mistake. The line of sight or the bullet path with regards to where the scope if looking is not relevant. The bullet drop is closer but also not relevant. What matters is the path of the bullet (its path at a 150 yards from the when it left the muzzle.

The bullet drop at 150 yards is much more than 1 inch. Look up a ballistics table or calculator to find the drop at 150 yards when sighted in at zero yards. This will give you the inches it dropped (guess about 3 inches (idk). From there you somehow need to calculate the angle at the 150 yard mark.

Hint if you care to calculate. The bullet starts dropping the instant it leaves the barrel. The drop per second is steady. The distance it travels will decrease for any time interval you choose to examine.

More importantly. omegaman66 says. "I disagree".

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GROK

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Yeah well AI said Abraham Lincoln was a Democrat.

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The .30-06 conspiracy theory is the theory with the most legs.

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True.

Here is the deal as someone that hunts with a 30-06.
1. we don't know the bullet that was used. The 30-06 has all kinds of different weights and designs of bullets, so you can't replicate anything until that is known.

2. Lets go with it was a standard bullet that if most often found. Would I expect that to exit. Absolutely. You might make that shot 50 times and get 50 exits. But bullets do deflect off of bone from time to time. It isn't crazy. It happens.

So while I find it to be not what I would typically expect, I also don't find it so strange to make me throw out all the other evidence that points straight to Tyler.

And lets say some country or group was setting Tyler up to be a patsy. He is there on the roof with the rifle. Why no just let him make the shot?

This is one conspiracy that I don't buy into without SOMETHING more than "that seems strange".

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While Putin may be a dictator, he hasn't sold out his country nor his people.

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You serious? Yes, he has. That is why he canceled elections. Because the people in Ukraine want to be rid of him and his war with Russia. The have seen the corruption exposed. Have you?

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Thats how you reason with dictators.

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Are you suggesting Zelensky is not a dictator. Last I checked his term ran out a while back in the past.

The worst thing for the world is for Ukraine to start winning. Because once they start winning that is when Russia will drop a nuke. Ukraine can not win when Russia has nukes.

All the leaders know Ukraine can not win (no nukes by russia required). The goal by Zelensky and France and the muslim country known currently as the UK and Germany etc. is not to win, they continue the war in the hopes of it damaging russia. They don't give a shite how many people die as Ukraine suffers.

They feign caring about Ukraine and they lie and tell you Ukraine can win. They know Ukraine can't. Stop listening to anyone that is saying that Ukraine can win. Because those people are either ignorant or if they are in politics they are lying.

Russia is gone from gaining 8 square km per day to 10 and now it has risen to about 20 over the last half a year and continues to increase.

Take the following comment as a sign that it is getting worse for Ukraine. The mappers a getting more and more out of alignment with each other. A couple of years ago prorussia and pro ukraine mappers were very close in their reporting. That is no longer the case. Why? Propaganda. Ukr mappers will show grey zone for a week after an area has fallen. Grey zones have grown larger on their maps, not acknowledging loses.