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re: Muslims, Islamists, Jihadists, Terrorists
Posted on 6/4/17 at 11:15 am to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 6/4/17 at 11:15 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:I'd say about the same responsibility Christians have to head to sub-Saharan Africa and "reign in the bullshite" of the Lord's Resistance Army and Antibalakas
What responsibility do groups 1 and 2 have for reigning is the bullshite of groups 3 and 4?
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 11:16 am
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 11:17 am to GambitAUfan
quote:People have been herded into a belief. It's just that simple.
Lol my point is that Islam has so many different sects, divisions, branches, etc. that it is nearly impossible to define it like many try to do.
The entertaining part is to watch the Cirque du Soleil type mental gymnastics they bend themselves into in a desperate attempt to justify it.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 11:18 am to Iosh
Don't change the subject cuck. I'm not awake at night worrying about antibalakas.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 11:20 am to SlowFlowPro
1 supports but doesn't engage in 2, 2 supports but doesn't engage in 3, 3 supports but doesn't engage in 4.
1 claims no responsibility for 4.
Am I doing it right?
1 claims no responsibility for 4.
Am I doing it right?
Posted on 6/4/17 at 11:23 am to SlowFlowPro
I think at this point it would be beneficial to distinguish between Sunnis and Shias and then identify the particularly pernicious ideology of Salafism. The Jihaists & Terrorists are Salafists...where does salafism come from? Who has peddled it for decades? Why do they keep getting a free pass?
Posted on 6/4/17 at 11:38 am to TX Tiger
quote:
Still waiting...
i went to shower and prep for the lunch i'm about to make
gonna enjoy some cultural appropriation by making a "chinese" lunch
and yes our mingling during the Cold War is a terrible legacy, however, the USSR was right behind us to install their own puppets had we not done so. does anyone think that allowing the USSR to control the middle east and all of its petro would be good for world stability?
yes, we committed grave sins in the ME. however, our sins are better than the alternative (both for the ME and the world at large)
Posted on 6/4/17 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
and yes our mingling during the Cold War is a terrible legacy, however, the USSR was right behind us to install their own puppets had we not done so. does anyone think that allowing the USSR to control the middle east and all of its petro would be good for world stability?
yes, we committed grave sins in the ME. however, our sins are better than the alternative (both for the ME and the world at large)
Exactly, people and nations are as they are and, considering that, who do you want dominating the world conversation - the US/West or the Russians (former Soviets)/Chinese or pick your authoritarian klepto-regime?
TX Tiger lives in an imaginary world where he believes if people would just see the manipulations of the powerful they'd stop being people who tribe up and battle for resources.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 12:41 pm to cwill
quote:And there's the irony.
TX Tiger lives in an imaginary world where he believes if people would just see the manipulations of the powerful they'd stop being people who tribe up and battle for resources.
I've spent 13 years explaining that events that are happening today are because people "tribe up" and battle for resources (not because of religion or freedom or any of the other Pollyanna excuses), and I've been called a kook for it.
You folks can't have it both ways.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 12:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:So you actually believe that murdering/displacing millions of innocent human beings periodically is better than the alternative (whatever that is)?
yes, we committed grave sins in the ME. however, our sins are better than the alternative (both for the ME and the world at large)
Posted on 6/4/17 at 12:48 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
So you actually believe that murdering/displacing millions of innocent human beings periodically is better than the alternative (whatever that is)?
i mean the USSR didn't exactly have a reputation for avoiding the killing/displacing of people
and if the USSR controlled the ME petro, they could have won the Cold War outright
even if i agree with you about the elite controlling so much, we are at the peak of humanity right now. it's the most peaceful era and we've taken so many steps to fight disease, poverty, hunger, etc. none of that would have occurred had the USSR won the Cold War
Posted on 6/4/17 at 12:50 pm to Iosh
quote:
say about the same responsibility Christians have to head to sub-Saharan Africa and "reign in the bullshite" of the Lord's Resistance Army and Antibalakas
Wow,talk about moral equivalency.ONE lunatic fringe group that's been condemned repeatedly by almost every mainstream Christian religion=dozens of Islamic terrorists groups and hundreds of Mosques that preach hatred.
Oh,you forgot to mention the Westboro Baptist lunatics.
Am I doing this right?
Posted on 6/4/17 at 12:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Nah, I think you just would've seen the domestic oil boom 20 years earlier. Communism (especially the Soviet kind) was too inherently flawed to have an economic path to victory.
and if the USSR controlled the ME petro, they could have won the Cold War outright
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 6/4/17 at 12:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
Problem is, they don't carry signs usually.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 12:57 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
And there's the irony.
I've spent 13 years explaining that events that are happening today are because people "tribe up" and battle for resources (not because of religion or freedom or any of the other Pollyanna excuses), and I've been called a kook for it.
You folks can't have it both ways.
You'll never get it...race, ethnicity, religion, ideology...it's the foundation of the tribes and those tribes compete for dominance. You try to boil it all down to something simple, and believe that all efforts are led by insincere leadership, that we are the tools of calculating people who use these pillars of tribal identity to gather wealth for themselves...not only that they sometimes do it in concert with others outside their tribe to the benefit of themselves and the detriment of their own group. Further, some of the shite you think is going on for "resources" makes absolutely no rational, economic sense even if you were an evil motherfricker trying to do what you claim! That's why you're labeled a kook.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 1:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
This new style of conflict is VERY recent.
It depends on how you're splitting hairs here. Terrorism is a good century or so old. Lone wolf terrorism is very recent. Local terroristic attacks in service of ideology is as old as Islam.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 1:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
They all worship a pedophile that commanded them to kill infidels.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Yes these are not my own words. They're from Sam Harris and Maajid Mawaz
I figured. The Ben Affleck discussion is the wet dream of every conservative on this board. He had Affleck frazzled and reeling and yelling then silent then pouting. At one point his hand was in a position to hold and drag off of a cigarette that wasn't there, so he just rubbed his face.
Sam Harris is not someone I would want to argue any point with. Even if he made a case for my mother being a whore. I would not try to argue with him. I would just physically assault him.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 1:30 pm to Iosh
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All the idiots begging for a Crusade like invading Muslim countries and setting up puppet states isn't something we've already tried
Twice
And failed both times
Kinda like ... the original Crusades, which in the long run accomplished nothing except a lot of unnecessary death
Haha. That's why we should just nuke them, amirite?
Posted on 6/4/17 at 1:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
ITT SFP shows he does not understand the logistics of guerilla warfare.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 1:33 pm to MrCarton
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That's why we should just nuke them, amirite?
no, not all of them
just a couple of strategic strikes to provide motivation to reform
like the motivation we provided to a fanatical Japan in 1945
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