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re: Muslims, Islamists, Jihadists, Terrorists
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:33 pm to biglego
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:33 pm to biglego
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Your point gets lost by the fact that Christians are no longer going on Crusade, but Muslims are indeed on jihad. Thays why you sound like you're bashing Christianity. You are making a false equivalency. Christianity has apparently changed, otherwise you wouldn't have to dig 900 years ago. Islam has not changed. That's why people like me groan when the Crusades are brought up in the context of modern Muslim terrorism.
if you really want me to sum it up, it's that extremist within religion, specifically religious warfare, have killed plenty of people throughout history, regardless of who's religion is doing the killing... to act otherwise is foolish...
yes, radical Muslims need to be put down to preserve peace globally... but exterminating an entire group of people because they happened to get the shite end of the stick and were born in that region, or because they follow the same religion, though not the same fricked up ideology, is not a GOOD thing... it's genocide, and i honestly don't see how someone, anyone can support that...
get rid of all the radicals, sure... that's needed... but what is more needed than that is to stop making outsiders of moderate muslims, basically telling them they are just as good as radicals in the West's eyes.... because if we continue to support that message, you aren't killing the radical's message of "see, we told you the West hates you", which only further gains that radical ideology more and more support...
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:14 pm to chRxis
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if you really want me to sum it up, it's that extremist within religion, specifically religious warfare, have killed plenty of people throughout history, regardless of who's religion is doing the killing... to act otherwise is foolish...
Which side would you prefer to be on? Sounds like you're ready to submit to Sharia out of fear or atheism.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 4:44 am to DownSouthJukin
quote:This is why rednecks get made fun of. I'm a redneck. I can say it.
If there is an alligator in my house, I'm not really worried about whether he's the kind that subscribes to regularly consuming human flesh or just tacitly supports it. He looks and acts like the rest, so he should get the same treatment as all of the rest.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 4:48 am to League Champs
quote:I know for a fact that this isn't true. I base this on my several friendships with Muslims in New York.
The above think those below are doing Allah's work. And once completed, peace will reign on Earth
How many friends do you have who are Muslim?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 4:53 am to Sentrius
quote:Except that the facts don't support your feelings here. Age, sex, economic class, and left-handedness are all greater indicators of likelihood one will commit acts of violence than religion is. The score focus on Islam is the ultimate whataboutism.
Anyone that deflects from the scourge of the earth that's called islam through whataboutisms of christianity, the crusades, #NotAllMuslims, and tolerance bullshite is a legit cuckold and a sad and weak excuse of a human being that's not fit to be a steward of western civilization.
Try dealing with facts and maybe let your feelings take a rest.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:46 am to ballscaster
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How many friends do you have who are Muslim?
I have 3 that have visited my home regularly. I work with a dozen more. And every single one of them say to me "Inshallah" when speaking about the topic of Jihad.
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Inshallah - Arabic language expression for "God willing" or "if God wills".
Posted on 6/5/17 at 9:12 am to League Champs
quote:In no way does this confirm your claim that non-violent Muslims believe that Jihadists and Terrorists, as described in the OP, are doing Allah's will.
I have 3 that have visited my home regularly. I work with a dozen more. And every single one of them say to me "Inshallah" when speaking about the topic of Jihad.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:36 pm to ballscaster
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In no way does this confirm your claim that non-violent Muslims believe that Jihadists and Terrorists, as described in the OP, are doing Allah's will
You are AN IDIOT
When you discuss why Jihadists exists, and their reply is that God will allow or punish it . . . . means they have no intention of EVER standing against God's will
Go back to casting your balls at some other dude
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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1. Muslims - these are people who believe in the tenets of Islam.
So terrorist?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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1. Muslims - these are people who believe in the tenets of Islam. there are more than 1B on earth
Ok. 1.6 billion
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2. Islamists - a subgroup of Muslims who believe that Islam should merge with state power to regulate societies
I'd say 75%. So that's 1.2 billion.
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3. Jihadists - a subgroup of Islamists who believe in using force/coercion to install an Islamic state
I'd say 30%. So 480 million.
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4. Terrorists - a subgroup of Islamists who use terror attacks on civilians and non-combatants to further Jihadism
I'm going with .5% who actually have the balls to go through with it. So 8 million who are either terrorists or directly enable and recruit them to the lifestyle.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:48 pm to Tyga Woods
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Does the Torah or New Testament call on its followers to eradicate those that don't believe?
The Torah absolutely calls for that. It's probable that's where Muhammad got the idea from.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Yes Christianity has less direct calls for violence but let's not act like it has been impossible to find justifications in the text. And Judaism shows it's possible to rise above the Bronze Age philosophy container in a holy book. Hell Islam wasn't that bad for centuries. This new style of conflict is VERY recent.
Old, yes there are justifications. New, there are no justifications.
Jesus taught to turn the other cheek. He's a pacifist. Muhammad taught his followers to cut the person's head off who defies you and your God. He's an extreme activist.
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