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Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:27 am to Iosh
I personally prefer the plan to kill 1B people
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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most modern Jews don't believe in many tenets form the Old Testment
this is the glimmer of hope actually
The Torah is just about as violent as the Koran and yet you don't see almost daily terrorism by Jews.
Jews are proof that reformation is possible. The trouble is, with 1.5 billion to reform, I just don't think it's probable.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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here is a very brief description of the 4 groups
Now explain why these radical subgroups are comprised of and/or supported by millions of Muslims? To my knowledge, no other major religion on earth includes so many radical elements. Could it be that the tenets of Muslim foster these radical subgroups?
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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just like how most modern Jews don't believe in many tenets form the Old Testment, or how many Christians ignore similar parts of their bible
religions develop over time
Does the Torah or New Testament call on its followers to eradicate those that don't believe?
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:29 am to LSU alum wannabe
Yes these are not my own words. They're from Sam Harris and Maajid Mawaz
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:31 am to Tyga Woods
I mean Bronze Age Jews did a bunch of conquering (and continue with modern Israel) and there have literally been countless bloody conflicts created by Christians using their Bible as justification. Don't be dense
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:34 am to GurleyGirl
Most Muslims live in authoritarian regimes so it's not likely they have much ability to really "break from the mold" like the West was able to do in modernity. But make no mistake, Wahhabisiam is relatively new on the world scale (and primarily funded by our allies). There has been a total regression in the Middle East over the past 50 years. It's a blink in terms of world history.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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Bronze Age Jews did a bunch of conquering (and continue with modern Israel) and there have literally been countless bloody conflicts created by Christians using their Bible as justification.
true
but there is some pretty violent text in the Torah
while Christians using the New Testament would have a hard time finding violence in that text
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:37 am to Lsupimp
quote:FIFY
Islamist- enablers - a subgroup of platitude- spouting, historically ignorant Western moral idiots who sit idly by while their government creates/funds/trains these POS.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:38 am to TrueTiger
Yes Christianity has less direct calls for violence but let's not act like it has been impossible to find justifications in the text. And Judaism shows it's possible to rise above the Bronze Age philosophy container in a holy book. Hell Islam wasn't that bad for centuries. This new style of conflict is VERY recent.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:38 am to Sun God
quote:I added the Byzantium sack because it shows how this kind of imperialism inevitably ends
You're having to do an awful lot of editing to your historical posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:40 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Nobody here seems very interested in asking why there has been a turn towards fundamentalism in the last half-century
There has been a total regression in the Middle East over the past 50 years. It's a blink in terms of world history.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:40 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Why the outrage over these POS, yet nothing of your own government that continues to create, fund, and train them to cause chaos while the establishment conducts regime change in the ME to make their next fortune and save a dollar system that otherwise has zero value?
Muslims, Islamists, Jihadists, Terrorists
ok i may need to make/bump this thread every time a major attack happens and all the "WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT ALL MUSLIMS" shite starts up. this is a handy guide on how to use basic words to describe different groups within the Muslim community
here is a very brief description of the 4 groups
1. Muslims - these are people who believe in the tenets of Islam. there are more than 1B on earth
2. Islamists - a subgroup of Muslims who believe that Islam should merge with state power to regulate societies
3. Jihadists - a subgroup of Islamists who believe in using force/coercion to install an Islamic state
4. Terrorists - a subgroup of Islamists who use terror attacks on civilians and non-combatants to further Jihadism
I'll hang up and listen.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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Bronze Age Jews
Seriously?? It's 20freaking17. A.D.
You have a culture, based on a violent religion, that not only doesn't want to assimilate, but wants to kill off all non-believers. If they wanted to live in isolation and believe that, cool, But they want to spread West and force our culture to change. I'm all for letting folks believe what they want to believe, but when it starts affecting the day to day lives of others, something has to be done.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:41 am to TX Tiger
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Why the outrage over these POS, yet nothing of your own government that continues to create, fund, and train them to cause chaos while the establishment conducts regime change in the ME to make their next fortune
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:42 am to Iosh
Suuuuuuure
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:43 am to DownSouthJukin
quote:So you equate all Muslims with animals.
If there is an alligator in my house, I'm not really worried about whether he's the kind that subscribes to regularly consuming human flesh or just tacitly supports it. He looks and acts like the rest, so he should get the same treatment as all of the rest.
And you wonder why this board is the laughing stock of TD.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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Hell Islam wasn't that bad for centuries.
when they were all a bunch of poor and militarily outclassed countries, I think they had enough sense not to try anything too crazy
now they have petro dollars and lots of weapons, they are 'feeling their oats'
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:43 am to SlowFlowPro
So what is your answer about what can reasonably be done about it?
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