re: Muslims, Islamists, Jihadists, Terrorists

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Yes Christianity has less direct calls for violence but let's not act like it has been impossible to find justifications in the text

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Except that Christ himself provides no such justification. It's a distinction that makes all the difference in the world and totally negates the comparison.

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This new style of conflict is VERY recent

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The other very recent thing is widespread immigration from Muslim countries to the West. Our culture is simply incompatible with their religion, and their religion does not allow them to just live and let live.

I mean, we've tried everything else many times,

what is the sense in repeating those failures?

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I mean, we've tried everything else many times

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We haven't tried what worked forever before the last few decades, which is not having any Muslims in the West and not bombing them in their homelands.
Separation will solve this.
Nuking the Middle East is a ridiculously naive idea that would have apocalyptic unintended consequences.

I think segregation will work.

Good fences make good neighbors.

But you will never convince the worshipers of multiculturalism.

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Yes Christianity has less direct calls for violence but let's not act like it has been impossible to find justifications in the text

Except that Christ himself provides no such justification. It's a distinction that makes all the difference in the world and totally negates the comparison.

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"For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[a]

Galatians 5:14

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I mean, we've tried everything else many times,

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How should it work over there? What is our best policy? Using history as our guide always, we can look at the Brits going back to the Golden Age under Elizabeth.

Brit policy was to support a weaker continental country against the strongest continental country. Spain ascendant? Support the Dutch. France Ascendant? Support the Spanish. Russia a problem? Ally with France and support Turkey. Germany ascendant? Support France. Germans at your throat again? Support France again. Unceremoniously ejected from the continent? Enlist the United States.

That policy works. It worked for the Brits for 300 years. We are doing exactly the opposite in our policy currently. The ally we need in that region is IRAN. We pretty much shanghaied them into being our ally in the 1950's. After their revolution we should have enlisted them as such again. The Reagan Administration took them a cake. The Iranians have a large population they have a long and proud history and they are NOT Arab. They hate the Arabs. THEY could act as a foil to Saudi Arabia. which is our greatest enemy in the region by far, and perhaps the world.

Supporting the second strongest power in a region against the strongest is a proven policy.

We don't pursue that policy because the Jewish State doesn't like it.

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completely clashes with the principles of Western Civilization.

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They are literally centuries behind the rest of the world and regressing.

I was talking to a Muslim woman who is apparently going to be stoned to death at some point if returns home too many times. She was asking me, as a christian, about the practice/tradition of women wearing head garments, like Catholics at the Vatican etc. I said all that I knew (very little) which it is a very old practice that I've seen with Italians and OLD Cajun women at funerals. I do not know its origin but recall seeing quite a few at my grandparents funerals in 1987. The old school French and English rosaries.

She was trying to find the text in the Koran where women shoul wear such things. She claims that there are only a couple of passages. One about a woman covering her hair, and the other about breasts essentially. Basically stating that a woman should be modest. She's making the case that "modesty" has been over interpreted and that the full beekeeper outfit has no place in Islam?

I told her I am obviously no religious scholar, but I feel all religions have people that take one passage and used it to bastardize the entire religion. I used the example of "taking up serpents" and the Appalachian churches that do this. It is a real thing. She acted as if she'd never heard this. I told her it is a real thing, but there is a huge difference. Here they are roundly laughed at, and there it is like the Muslim "snake handler types" are running the show. I cant recall if she is from Iraq or Iran, but she says she has been stopped and questioned by the "morality police" for her western dress. I told her I'd never return if I were her. If everyone in Louisiana were told they had to take up snakes or have their hands removed, Louisiana would no longer be my home. At least not the home I once knew.

I left the conversations at that. I did not ask her how she felt personally about leaving the religion or homosexuality and appropriate punishments for such infractions.

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even if i agree with you about the elite controlling so much, we are at the peak of humanity right now. it's the most peaceful era and we've taken so many steps to fight disease, poverty, hunger, etc. none of that would have occurred had the USSR won the Cold War

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Why is that?

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You try to boil it all down to something simple, and believe that all efforts are led by insincere leadership, that we are the tools of calculating people who use these pillars of tribal identity to gather wealth for themselves.

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I don't know about "all efforts," but where 9/11 and the subsequent mess in the ME is concerned, yes, that is exactly what is happening.

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not only that they sometimes do it in concert with others outside their tribe to the benefit of themselves and the detriment of their own group.

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Example?

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Further, some of the shite you think is going on for "resources" makes absolutely no rational, economic sense even if you were an evil motherfricker trying to do what you claim! That's why you're labeled a kook.

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Again, example?

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"For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[a]

Galatians 5:14

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honest question, but do you personally think that this does or does not include muslims, moderate or radical?

and it's not any 'gotcha' attempt, but i just truly would like to know how a practicing Christian reconciles this statement with their actual feelings towards the world in which they live....