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re: Mother in Law is fully vaxxed. Positive Covid with symptoms.

Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:27 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:27 am to
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It's only going to keep going up. How long have people been fully vaxxed? Seems silly to say this when these vaccines lose their efficacy pretty quickly.


Honestly there’s a decent chance of Covid killing me… 50 years from now. But anytime soon, no.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:28 am to
About 75% of the vaccinated people I know have come down with COVID. Aunt and uncle are struggling with it right now. Fully vaxxed in May/June.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125435 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:28 am to
It’s 0.007. That’s .7%.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87202 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:29 am to
Did you even read your links?

It’s less likely to have a case when vaccinated and less likely to be hospitalized. There are charts to show that…

Posted by thrillachinchilla
Cage
Member since Oct 2021
157 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:31 am to
Its a coronavirus. The fact that we have a vaccine in itself is a miracle for one of those. But we're probably at the tail end of effectiveness right now for early adopters. Just going by immune response to other coronaviruses like the common cold. So it's gonna be a few months of testing and strategizing and unfortunately since it's a year round bug we won't have the luxury of one shot and good for the season but probably spaced out shots 6-9 months apart. Just the nature of it and immune systems.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37710 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:31 am to
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put your trust into your government


History tells you to never do this.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87202 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:31 am to
No. It says 0.007%

But that’s among all vaccinated. Not breakthroughs.
This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 10:33 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125435 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:32 am to
I did read the links. They keep saying things that the data doesn’t really support.

If you want to hang your hat on decreasing hospitalization from 4% to 3.5%, you are free to do that.
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
23901 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:33 am to
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You are wrong. I never claimed the vaccine was total protection. That’s not how they work.


That is NOT what your government overlords were telling the country in March.

Please show us where you called them out and called them liars because clearly you know better.

And if you can't then you're a f*cking LIAR.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125435 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:34 am to
That may be 0.007% of all vaccinated. We’re talking about breakthrough infections.

345/44,458=0.7%

If you’re following the numbers in Massachusetts, they’re averaging ~4,000 breakthrough cases a week.

The hospitalization rates and mortality have remained relatively constant for vaccinated.
Posted by fastlane
Member since Jul 2014
4529 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:34 am to
Happened to me too. What a joke.

But the symptoms did go away quickly.
Posted by High Tide 07
Member since Aug 2019
417 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:37 am to
I work in the hospital and have treated Covid pts since the beginning. Number 1 is that natural immunity is the best. Number 2 the vaccine is doing its job and keeping the VAST majority of the folks who take it from developing severe Covid. The vaccine does not prevent spreading of the virus like they had hoped.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:37 am to
You are parroting the same rhetoric that continues to fall short when science is applied.

Viral loads fluctuate based on each case, cases both vaxxed & non vaxxed have shown high viral loads (in non symptomatic cases as well).

Wake up to anything they profess that this gene therapy provides. The data is so manipulated it’s irrelevant & it still falls short of promises.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87202 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:37 am to
The data shows the case rate for vaccinated is currently a quarter or less vs those unvaxxed. Breakthroughs are more common for elderly. The average age is 48. Way older than the current average age of all cases. So when broken down by age, the data shows that symptoms are less severe. You just don’t know how to read the data.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:38 am to
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Mother in Law is fully vaxxed. Positive Covid with symptoms.

Hope the best for her. Luckily, she's fully vaxxed as we know that'll greatly increase her chances of beating the virus.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:39 am to
Does this make sense:

You have a 99.7% chance of NOT dying from COVID without the vaccine.

The vaccine effectiveness ranges between 40% (Israel) and 99% (reported by pharma). Let just settle for 60% which is about the effectiveness of the flu vaccine.

So 1- 0.997 is 0.003 and 0.003 X 0.6 is 0.0018.

Thus the your chances of NOT dying from COVID in increase to 0.997 + 0.0018 = 99.88% with the vaccine.

That's for the general population.

Is the vaccine worth it, really?
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21985 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:40 am to


It’s not about what’s right or common sense. It’s about money and control. Vaccinated or unvaccinated it doesn’t matter.

2 weeks = 2 years.
Vaccine = still wear mask/still lockdowns
Nobel peace prize medicine = horse dewormer

I can go on, but long story short....both vax and unvaxed need to stand together for what is right. This thing clearly does not need to be mandated and our government does not give a rats arse about either group as they only reap the benefits of our suffering.
This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 10:41 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87202 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:40 am to
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That is NOT what your government overlords were telling the country in March.

Please show us where you called them out and called them liars because clearly you know better.

And if you can't then you're a f*cking LIAR.
I was saying it before anyone else was in March 2020.

Suck my dick.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125435 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:40 am to
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Number 2 the vaccine is doing its job and keeping the VAST majority of the folks who take it from developing severe Covid.


The vast majority of people who get Covid don’t develop severe Covid.

The absolute risk reduction for hospitalization is at most 2%.

The absolute risk reduction for mortality might be 0.5%. It’s likely less than that.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15650 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:40 am to
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The hospitalization rates and mortality have remained relatively constant for vaccinated.


The vaccine seems to preventing a lot of deaths in MS long term health care facilities

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