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re: Looks like Trump figured some shite out at Camp David
Posted on 6/21/26 at 9:51 pm to Geekboy
Posted on 6/21/26 at 9:51 pm to Geekboy
I have been mostly happy with Trump's second term, but I'm absolutely flabbergasted at the way he's bought Iran's bullshite. If it isn't obvious after decades that they can't be trusted, I don't know what it'll take to convince him. I know he wants to make a historic deal, but that simply isn't possibly with Shiite leadership. Either cut our losses and leave or destroy them.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:08 pm to DesScorp
What if their people told our people “Hey, y’all ‘member when so many of you were crowing over the possibility of terrorist cells being able to easily sneak in during the Biden Presidency? Welp, turns out y’all were completely right to be concerned. We’ve got Islamic Brotherhood groups throughout America, ready willing and able to proceed as instructed. Proceed accordingly.”
I mean, is that truly an unreasonable possibility in our world and country today, particularly given the cartoonish nature of border security for a four year period? Seems like a whole bunch could get accomplished in that lengthy time frame, insofar as the cells are concerned. But actually the main point I’d like to get across is the reality that is clearly forgotten by most amongst us is that there’s in all likelihood some factor or factors that are greatly (maybe even “severely” influencing the entire matter) that we just don’t know about and likely aren’t smart enough to contemplate or anticipate.
Cliffs: There is/are likely significant factors at play, of which we aren’t aware (and maybe shouldn’t be, depending on the circumstances).
I mean, is that truly an unreasonable possibility in our world and country today, particularly given the cartoonish nature of border security for a four year period? Seems like a whole bunch could get accomplished in that lengthy time frame, insofar as the cells are concerned. But actually the main point I’d like to get across is the reality that is clearly forgotten by most amongst us is that there’s in all likelihood some factor or factors that are greatly (maybe even “severely” influencing the entire matter) that we just don’t know about and likely aren’t smart enough to contemplate or anticipate.
Cliffs: There is/are likely significant factors at play, of which we aren’t aware (and maybe shouldn’t be, depending on the circumstances).
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:22 pm to Bunk Moreland
You agree with Joe Kent? SAVE ME from watching that jerks video...Why do you agree with Kent, Cassidy?
Sidenote: Am i naive that gumbopot will be back posting? What did I miss? I know he went Tuckered with a lot of Fuentes. I know a few of us got J word nastygrams. Was he banned? Was he MTG?
It just occured to me that I asked him in jest about MTG and the reply was he knew her and her family.
He defended MTG like she was kin or his GF? Or am I misremembering?
Sidenote: Am i naive that gumbopot will be back posting? What did I miss? I know he went Tuckered with a lot of Fuentes. I know a few of us got J word nastygrams. Was he banned? Was he MTG?
It just occured to me that I asked him in jest about MTG and the reply was he knew her and her family.
He defended MTG like she was kin or his GF? Or am I misremembering?
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:22 pm to davyjones
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Bros, if by all metrics you’ve militarily defeated another country (in what almost everyone insisted was full on, official war), since when does the victor of an all out war pay heed to the territorial “rights” of the defeated country? We were/are at war with them. We by all metrics defeated them. They lost legitimate rights to object.
It's almost like we haven't actually fully defeated them militarily, despite the boasting, isn't it? Like maybe we can't just impose terms and are actually kind of fricked if the strait stays closed? So now our options are to try and make a deal with Iran, who are unreliable on the best of days, while Israel does its best to screw up any progress. Or, actually use enough military force to be a victor in an all out war, which for whatever reason the administration seems pretty reluctant to do. (Probably not just, as people in this thread are suggesting, that we're just being nice.).
By the way I didn't see your response when you asked for specifics about how Israel is fricking up the peace deal, and the other guy gave specifics with links that explain it very clearly. Maybe you missed it.
This post was edited on 6/21/26 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:23 pm to davyjones
Good way to get a nuke dropped on Tehran.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:26 pm to TigerIron
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It's almost like we haven't actually fully defeated them militarily, despite the boasting, isn't it? Like maybe we can't just impose terms and are actually kind of fricked if the strait stays closed? So now our options are to try and make a deal with Iran, who are unreliable on the best of days, while Israel does its best to screw up any progress. Or, actually use enough military force to be a victor in an all out war, which for whatever reason the administration seems pretty reluctant to do. (Probably not just, as people in this thread are suggesting, that we're just being nice.).
Golly gee—it’s almost like all of this was insanely obvious from the moment we started this war. If only anyone would have said it was a bad idea that was never going to work.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:45 pm to MKP2004
There are gun ho posters that wanted to nuke Iran, Lebanon, Syria, and whereever Iran had a secret nuke missile facility. Khag Island, Gillgan's island.
I used too think neocons and possibly reformed neocons only thought this way...
It is just gung ho tards that know no better at their cousins house in Bama, that think "Marshall" law is coming...and believe everything they read on the chans.
I used too think neocons and possibly reformed neocons only thought this way...
It is just gung ho tards that know no better at their cousins house in Bama, that think "Marshall" law is coming...and believe everything they read on the chans.
This post was edited on 6/21/26 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:48 pm to Indefatigable
You know that there are pearl clutchers at every geo political move.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:56 pm to cajunangelle
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You know that there are pearl clutchers at every geo political move.
The idea that the peopling running this op don't have all of the possibilities wargames out in advance is laughable but it fits with the shrill assholes pushing it.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:44 pm to cajunangelle
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There are gun ho posters that wanted to nuke Iran, Lebanon, Syria, and whereever Iran had a secret nuke missile facility. Khag Island, Gillgan's island.
I am of the opinion that you don’t war half-assed. You either nuke everyone and everything to glass, you send an overwhelming shock and awe invasion of ground forces supported by air and sea with fully equipped logistics supply chains, or you don’t do it at all.
If Trump lacked the popular support or logistics for a ground invasion, and glass isn’t the solution to the problem at hand, he shouldn’t have gotten involved at all.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:48 pm to ArHog
shite…sign me back up for a ground invasion. We owe those fricks an arse kicking
Posted on 6/22/26 at 12:04 am to tide06
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Israel does not have a right to annex southern Lebanon and ethnically cleanse the area
In this very thread (I think) Lebanon praises Israel and asks Hezbollah to leave Lebanon. In the end, Israel would leave Lebanon if Hezbollah were gone. Currently in real life Hezbollah has annexed Lebanon and Lebanon doesn't want them there but hasn't the arms nor manpower to get them out.
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