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re: J.D. Vance wants people with kids to be in a lower tax bracket than people without kids.

Posted on 7/26/24 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5565 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 10:23 pm to
I dont have kids and never will but I understand the need to encourage people to have them. The only way I'll be able to retire is if my generation has kids that work.


Buuut, Don't we already have a bunch of tax incentives for parents?
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4975 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 10:27 pm to
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Bru. Baby mamas with five kids aren’t paying taxes


Doesn't matter, they get the CTC for each one anyway. They can get a "refund" even if they pay no tax at all. (At least it was that way a few years ago when I rented to a couple baby mamas. May have changed.)

Considering that, I like JDs plan of lower tax brackets for parents instead of the CTC. Doing both would be unfair and overkill.
Posted by Bogie00
Tiger in Kansas
Member since Apr 2012
5795 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 10:29 pm to
So wait until your kids leave home or your spouse dies. Single individuals already pay more in taxes for same income regardless. Break for head of household not given to single or widow. Same for car insurance.

I have no problem with credits already given, that benefit those raising a family.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11397 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

We are the only species in existence to ever deviate from the primal urge to procreate. Congratulations, losers. Y'all managed to beat Mother Nature.


We're also the only species that wears clothes, writes books, creates electricity, and builds homes with AC. So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. The greatest thing about humanity is that we progressed beyond the eat, sleep, frick cycle every other species on the planet lives daily.

Why do you want the greatest species on the planet to live like all the lower life forms?
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
7179 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 11:00 pm to
Dude's spitballing bullshite. The left hears shite like that and you get AOC driving the Green New Deal up everyone's arse out of nowhere.

Think about that. She broke the DNC over and they submitted.

I really don't care about these kinds of things. Show me something substantive. I've believed dumb shite before too.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3705 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 11:04 pm to
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It's already bull shite. Why would they want to be punished eve more?

My point was that this isn’t some new fangled idea from JD Vance like you are trying to portray, and that it is already a reality.

P.S. c’mon man, spray them guts and get some tax credits and quit being a puss
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15280 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 11:19 pm to
The whole tax system is designed to financially incentivize positive behavior. Given our current population debacle, incentivizing the nuclear family would seem helpful.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1877 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 11:33 pm to
Makes perfect sense.

Perpetual children who are not contributing to our collective future should pay more. They have more disposable income.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41123 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 11:40 pm to
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Makes perfect sense. Perpetual children who are not contributing to our collective future should pay more. They have more disposable income.


100 percent.



Don’t like it? Have some kids and contribute something worthwhile to our country. Otherwise, get to work and open up that wallet.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87384 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 11:41 pm to
“America should incentivize families” isn’t non-mainstream

Sorry dude
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
25004 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 12:37 am to
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Don’t like it? Have some kids and contribute something worthwhile to our country. Otherwise, get to work and open up that wallet.


your wallet is already wide open. all he’s saying is the federal government should take less from it if you’re helping to secure the next generation. hitler adjacent amirite

the histrionic reaction to this is confirmation of his cat lady comment. a very large minority of people don’t give a flying frick about anything beyond their next meal and it shows in policy and action
This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 12:39 am
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35334 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 12:40 am to
Go frick your cat.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17551 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 6:50 am to
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The next step is stop giving giant corporate companies huge tax advantages. C- corp 20%—-sCorp 40% Why give huge publicly traded companies that kind of advantage ? Gut the globalist agenda.


Distributions from C corps are subject to a double layer of taxation, while S corps are not. Also, you don't have to be publicly traded to be a C corp.

It's sad how uneducated our populace is when it comes to taxes.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6493 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 6:56 am to
I don't really like JD Vance, but I agree with him on this issue.

A nation isn't built on dirt. It's built on flesh and blood.
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6969 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 7:03 am to
It’s funny how people like Dave sit back and say nothing while the government encourages absolute shite (welfare, illegal immigration, alphabet people, men in women’s sports, open drug use, etc) but the second a politician even suggests incentivizing net positives for society he loses his mind.

Government absolutely needs to incentivize good things.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17551 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 7:21 am to
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Government absolutely needs to incentivize good things.


That's just it, though: Marriage is already incentivized. Having children is already incentivized. Unless he's talking about removing phaseouts for high earners, what was the point of this declaration? To set yourself up for a sound bite that could be used against you?
This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 7:23 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49547 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 7:35 am to
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No reason to punish people that don't have kids.

Why not?? - they are contributing nothing to improve the future -

And we should tax people who have bad kids double.

The ultimate requirement for improving society is to raise good kids.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71229 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 7:40 am to
This is one way. Personally, I think childless people should get less social security. If you don't contribute with future payers, you shouldn't get as much as people who ensure you get anything.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 7:42 am to
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I dont have kids and never will


I felt that way when I was 22.

Now, I realize its our only objective purpose on this earth.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14230 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 7:45 am to
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If you can't afford a big family don't have a ton of kids.


Cool so lets end wellfare yesterday.


Dave is a fricking idiot most times.
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