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re: Is it ever Ok to murder innocent women and children?
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:14 pm to TutHillTiger
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:14 pm to TutHillTiger
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they let Saudi terrorist murder over 3000 Americans on 9-11 as it benefited them and they knew we would go nuts and kill millions of Muslims.
Let them? Wow. What dope are you smoking, son? Show your work.
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They believe that their existence is always under threat so there is nothing they will not do
“Believe?” Have they not been under constant threat and attacks…for thousands of years? And if you can’t recognize the incredible restraint Israel has exhibited over the years, nobody can help you.
There is so much complete ignorance on this topic, I don’t even know where to start. Stop consuming propaganda. You are pushing the lies in this very thread. Stop it. Are you Islam? Would make a lot of sense if you are.
I stay fired up on this topic because I understand that the ultimate goal of Islam is to convert every person on earth to Islam or kill them. All you have to do is believe them. They don’t hide this. The fight is already on our soil. If Israel falls, it gets way worse for us way faster.
This post was edited on 9/21/26 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:15 pm to BawtHouse
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The Arabs have been swearing to murder every Jew and nonbeliever for a very long time. Israel has been under constant threat and attacks from Iranian backed forces for a very long time. It’s been a powder keg over there. October 7th set it off and Israel clearly made a decision it has had enough and will do what must be done through war to stop it. This is an Israeli response. Not an unprovoked aggression.
If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be peace tomorrow.
If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no Israel tomorrow.
One side wants peace and is currently doing what is required in hopes it can lead to a sustained peace once settled.
The other side is committed foundational to never stopping until ALL JEWS AND NONBELIEVERS are wiped off Earth. That include all Americans.
Stop believing BS propaganda. You are now sympathizing and siding with the enemy, which is exactly the goal of their propaganda efforts. It’s already reaching US soil through breeding and elected officials. At what point will you wake up and be honest about what is actually happening over there AND here in the US. I hope that happens before it’s too late, if it isn’t already too late.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:16 pm to TutHillTiger
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I am defining innocent as have committed no crime, not the immediate family of any terrorist etc, and for kids let’s just say under age 6.
Is so when?
Based on modern culture? When the mother decides it.
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I think it is as long as not intentional and in the fog of war. As in if we accidently hit that girls school in Iraqi due to being dumb asses and using wrong maps. Not good but it happens so ok. It’s not ok if we did it intentionally because some of them were kids of Iranian leaders.
Oh ok. Yes I agree that this is unfortunate but an obvious thing that will happen during conflicts.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:21 pm to TutHillTiger
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I am defining innocent as have committed no crime, not the immediate family of any terrorist etc, and for kids let’s just say under age 6.
Is it ok? You should have defined "ok" before you defined the subjects.
Yes, it is ok to kill anyone as long as you (or the entity that you belong to) has the ability to destroy everyone else who cares to question you.
The only limitations to what you can get away with are closely related to your power to kill those who argue against it.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:25 pm to TutHillTiger
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Is so when?
It’s okay for muzzies to do this to Christian infidels. It is taught, it’s also okay to tax, in the form of stealing and fraud from their enemies. This is Islam, and so long as the murders and rapes are enemy women and children, it is allowed, even moral.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:38 am to BoarEd
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Is it ever Ok to murder innocent women and children?
Only if you're a woman and they're your children.
Oh, damn!
Be proud of that one Boar, that was a winner!
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:49 am to SallysHuman
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also understand our idea of a "child" is their idea of strong enough to hold a gun.
I think we make a mistake when we equate our idea of "women and children" to their lived REALITY of what women and children can do to serve their god/regime.
That said... I can't emotionally separate a 12 year old from here vs a 12 year old from there.
BurqaBarbies? Smoke'em if they give cause.
This is a hard pill for some to swallow. A very harsh fact for some.
Any of them that aren't of the truly peaceful sect have been, and are being raised as soldiers. A soldier that supports killing in the name of Ahalalala. From birth.. Jihadist don't raise families. They raise loyalist soldiers.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:41 am to TutHillTiger
This is something that I have struggled with for many years.
Let's just say there is a 101% chance I directed my units fire, called in fire missions, and called in CAS where there were women and children likely to have been present. I never saw them prior to targeting and was only reacting to direct fire from the other side. I did, however, follow my ROE to the letter.
The whole process stained my soul, whether it was men, women, or children. Some are just worse than others.
Let's just say there is a 101% chance I directed my units fire, called in fire missions, and called in CAS where there were women and children likely to have been present. I never saw them prior to targeting and was only reacting to direct fire from the other side. I did, however, follow my ROE to the letter.
The whole process stained my soul, whether it was men, women, or children. Some are just worse than others.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:42 am to TutHillTiger
No, it's never okay.
A botched military operation wouldn't fall under the guise of a murder. At least it wouldn't in my opinion.
A botched military operation wouldn't fall under the guise of a murder. At least it wouldn't in my opinion.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:41 am to TutHillTiger
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Is it ever Ok to murder innocent women and children
I don't yet know if it is ok. But apparently, if you are a woman, you can get a hung jury out of it.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:56 am to TutHillTiger
War is hell. It was true in 1865, 1916, 1945, 1973, 1990, etc.
There will always be collateral damage in war. It’s unavoidable.
There will always be collateral damage in war. It’s unavoidable.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:18 am to BawtHouse
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I understand that the ultimate goal of Islam is to convert every person on earth to Islam or kill them. All you have to do is believe them. They don’t hide this.
History proves you wrong. Islamic conquests did involve warfare and expansion, as did the major empires.
However, conquest is not the same as forced conversion. In many conquered regions, Christians, Jews, and other communities continued practicing their religions for centuries. Conversion often occurred gradually through social contact, trade, intermarriage, and the appeal of Islamic teachings.
The Qur’an states, “There is no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from Error” (2:256).
The Prophet Muhammad also made treaties with non-Muslim communities and did not require every conquered population to accept Islam.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:26 am to Rational
The Sharia law explicitly forbade killing non-combatants, during wars: “Do not kill a woman or children”.LINK
This rule serves as a foundational text for Islamic rules of engagement, establishing that those who do not actively participate in combat must be protected from intentional harm.
This rule serves as a foundational text for Islamic rules of engagement, establishing that those who do not actively participate in combat must be protected from intentional harm.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:28 am to TutHillTiger
It is never OK to murder innocents. However, it's OK to feel a warm glow if you read that someone murdered Chuck Schumer.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:43 am to TutHillTiger
No. You're sick. Get help.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:50 am to NawlinsTiger9
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What is it, like 20,000 kids in Palestine that Israel has killed?
Makes me hope there actually is a god and some sort of divine judgment for the people who pull the triggers on these atrocities
Luckily they're experts at "tricking" God. They'll be fine so far as they can transfer their sins into a chicken.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 5:23 am to TutHillTiger
1 Samuel 15:3
New International Version
3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
New International Version
3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
Posted on 9/22/26 at 5:49 am to BawtHouse
Well said Bawthouse.
As Golda Meir famously said "There will only be peace when Palestinians love their children more than they hate Jews"
As Golda Meir famously said "There will only be peace when Palestinians love their children more than they hate Jews"
Posted on 9/22/26 at 5:54 am to FooManChoo
quote:If you knowingly carry out a kinetic military action that will kill innocents, what word would you prefer to use?
I think you need to be careful with the word “murder”.
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