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re: Is it ever Ok to murder innocent women and children?

Posted on 9/22/26 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 5:01 pm to
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Does it even matter? .

Absolutely.

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If a war isn't just, then every civilian life lost is a murder

Sure. Like Hitler/Germany in WW2, right? Surely you don’t think this is the same thing, right?

Is that what we’re talking about? I thought this was about the mistake of accidentally killing civilians due to bad intel?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 5:19 pm to
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Sure. Like Hitler/Germany in WW2, right? Surely you don’t think this is the same thing, right?


Well you drew that comparison. Do you think it's the same thing?
Posted by Jauquismos
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 5:23 pm to
RIP RAFTERMAN
Posted by JacieNY
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 6:16 pm to
Is it ever Ok to murder innocent women and children?

Short answer, as long as the person pulling the trigger is Republican.
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
2021 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:49 pm to
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Well you drew that comparison. Do you think it's the same thing?

Absolutely.























It’s just the first one that comes to mind. This is definitely not that. Or maybe it is. We’re still the good guys. Different bad guys. Either way, this is a distraction from my original point, which is that there is a difference between murder and killing.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:53 pm to
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not intentional

Then it isn’t murder
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4795 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:57 pm to
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As in if we accidently hit that girls school in Iraqi due to being dumb asses and using wrong maps.


Hell no soldier this stuff youre using is expensive for one and innocent people's lives are worth even more. Think about what you're saying. You can't be a dumb arse with innocent kids

There's a reason people are so methodical about commercial airline & especially military grade equipment. You need lots of planning & logistics to execute the mission without screwing something else up. In a way it's like a surgeon at the operating table
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 10:58 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34501 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 11:53 pm to
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Is it ever Ok to murder innocent women and children?

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hit that girls school in Iraqi

Oh, for a minute I thought you were talking about 9/11, or the 22 year old that died of a heart attack in an Iranian hospital because she didnt wear a hijab, or the 1900 women and children killed across 30 provinces prior to the US strikes in Iran, or the folks that died at a Gazan music festival

And we're mot even wondering whether those deaths might have been accidental
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 11:59 pm to
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Is it ever Ok to murder innocent women and children?


Are we using the legal definition of murder or are we using drama queen hyperbole? I’m OK with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but I don’t consider that murder.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 9/23/26 at 2:31 am to
All of the muscle hijackers on 9/11 were "just innocent children" about 5 years before that.

Those kids would either be terrorists or birth more eventually.
Posted by JayDub
Member since May 2023
377 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 3:16 am to
I thought you might be a dipsh!t with your first post, this one removes ALL doubt!!!
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 9/23/26 at 6:08 am to
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What would Curtis Lemay have done differently in Afghanistan? Attacked Pakistan to route out the remaining Taliban?


simple inform the taliban to hand over bin laden or we kill every man, woman and child in kabul. that's 4 million people. that was an option presented to bush. instead we decided to help them embrace democracy and then 20 years later we left the country with our tail between our legs.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/23/26 at 3:26 pm to
The world would be vastly improved if it was ALL OF THEM.
Posted by CupidStunts
Member since Aug 2026
41 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:17 pm to
The Talmud, the Jewish holy book, says the same things.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
60964 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:18 pm to
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I am defining innocent as have committed no crime, not the immediate family of any terrorist etc, and for kids let’s just say under age 6. Is so when?


In the womb or if you have imbalanced hormones and your children are a nuisance. Duh.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/23/26 at 9:11 pm to
Do you know how many Palestinians Israel has killed since the ceasefire began?

Hell, even Mr. Zionist, Mike Huckabee, himself called the Israeli settlers in the West Bank terrorists.

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One side wants peace and is currently doing what is required in hopes it can lead to a sustained peace once settled. The other side is committed foundational to never stopping until ALL JEWS AND NONBELIEVERS are wiped off Earth. That include all Americans. Stop believing BS propaganda



LOL
This post was edited on 9/23/26 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21716 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 9:19 pm to
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I think it is as long as not intentional and in the fog of war. As in if we accidently hit that girls school in Iraqi due to being dumb asses and using wrong maps.


Do you understand how modern weaponry works? Do you think we are carpet bombing with unguided ordinance like it’s WW2? In all likelihood there is camera footage from every single missile we’ve launched. We’ve seen a million videos of targets painted and weapons tracking to the target going back all the way to the first Gulf War. The idea that anyone would risk their career launching a guiding a missile to a non target is not only absurd, it would probably have to be cleared through multiple layers of redundancy before its launched.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8998 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 9:23 pm to
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If you are real Christian it’s really hard to defend though, but we did it in Vietnam. It’s eats at your soul to kill innocents though, a darkness that never leaves you


Link regarding military sanctioned killing of innocents?

War is hell and people die.
We do not want war, but like WW2; if there is a war, you fight to win.

How many innocents did your friends in Vietnam kill especially after we left and the Communists took over?

Does Cambodia and the Killing Fields trigger a memory of the evils of Marxism?

We have done bad things. Every superpower on this earth has done bad things.
Do you have Anglo-white guilt?

You will be sent to the gulags as everyone else if the globalists take over.
What makes you special?
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
4260 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 9:31 pm to
Huh! Not one word from you about the terrorists that went into Israel and killed and tortured men, women, and children. Not one word from you about the millions of children being aborted daily basically because they are unwanted. But let’s simp for them Palestinians right?!
Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
480 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 10:08 pm to
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The Talmud, the Jewish holy book, says the same things.


It, in fact, does not. Jews do not aim to convert others. They are not an evangelical people. In fact, they make it quite difficult to convert.

Israel is perfectly happy to have a two state solution. The only conditions are that the Palestinians acknowledge Israel as a state, have the right to exist, and can do so in actual lasting peace. Seriously, that’s it. And that’s been it every time they have offered a two state solution. So, why won’t the Palestinians, and the other Iranian backed forces like Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, etc refuse to accept those terms? Why?
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