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It’s not about supporting an individual. It’s about whether or not someone can attack someone else because they are offended by what that other person did. The ramifications of this are bigger than one person.


I probably need clarification of your statement here. What did you mean by this?
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The interaction was fake. The Joo hatred isn't


The interaction was fake. Why would I need to watch the video? You said the Joo hatred isn't, meaning something beyond the video, which is why I asked the question I did. "Who are these Joo haters attacking?"

Now are you going to respond or are you going to melt away?
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Why would people be angry about leaving the US to apply for green cards?

People on temporary visas (especially H-1B workers, students on OPT, etc.) are angry about this policy change for several practical, financial, emotional, and risk-related reasons.
Main Reasons for Anger
Major Disruption to Daily Life and Career
Many H-1B holders (and similar visa holders) have lived and worked in the US for years — often 5–10+ years while waiting for green cards due to backlogs (especially for Indians and Chinese in employment-based categories). They have jobs, mortgages, cars, kids in school, and spouses working on H-4 visas.
Forcing them to leave means quitting or taking extended unpaid leave, potentially losing income, health insurance, and career momentum. Employers may not hold positions open during uncertain processing abroad.
Family Separation and Upheaval
Families often include US-born children or school-age kids. Leaving could mean splitting the family or uprooting everyone. Spouses and kids on dependent visas face the same uncertainty. This is especially painful after building roots in the US.
Higher Risk of Denial or Delays
Adjustment of Status (AOS) inside the US is generally safer: You stay put while USCIS processes your case. Denials can sometimes be appealed or refiled.
Consular Processing abroad involves a visa interview at a US embassy/consulate in your home country. Decisions by consular officers are harder to challenge (limited appeal options).
There’s a real fear of being stuck outside the US if the application hits administrative processing, security checks, or a denial — especially if your current visa expires while you’re abroad.
Longer and More Uncertain Timelines in Practice
While consular processing can sometimes be faster on paper, backlogs at certain embassies (e.g., in India, where many H-1B holders are from) plus travel, medical exams, and potential delays can make the overall process more chaotic. People worry about being "trapped" overseas for months.
Financial Costs
International travel for the entire family, legal fees, potential loss of US income, housing costs abroad, and re-establishing life upon return all add up significantly.
Perception of Unfairness
Many argue they followed the legal pathway, contributed taxes, filled skill shortages in tech/STEM, and integrated into American society. They see this as moving the goalposts after years of investment — treating long-term legal residents as if they were still "temporary visitors" who should easily pack up and leave.
Grok:
3nOut shared a screenshot of an official DHS (Department of Homeland Security) announcement from May 22, 2026, stating:
“An alien who is in the U.S. temporarily and wants a Green Card must return to their home country to apply. This policy allows our immigration system to function as the law intended instead of incentivizing loopholes. The era of abusing our nation’s immigration system is over.”
It also includes a Daily Caller headline about the Trump administration closing a loophole that previously allowed people (often on visas like H-1B, student visas, etc.) to stay in the U.S. while waiting for their Green Card (adjustment of status).
3nOut’s comment:
“in related news... lotta people with non-american names are big mad about this.”
What 3nOut is doing/saying:
He’s celebrating this new Trump admin policy as a crackdown on immigration loopholes.
The sarcastic jab “lotta people with non-american names are big mad” is his way of saying that immigrants (or people from immigrant backgrounds, especially those on temporary visas hoping to transition to permanent residency) are angry about having to leave the U.S. to apply for Green Cards instead of doing it from inside the country.
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The Joo hatred isn't


Who are these "Joo haters" attacking? Is it mom and pop going to the synagogue on Friday, or is it the state of Israel? You need to be clear.
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I’m using my experience from what I’ve observed the past few years. I’ve known and seen people do, say, and behave exactly this way. With legitimate feelings.

My “legit hate” statement is opinion based on experience and observation.


Thank you for qualifying that. You are a big man to come back and say that, even though you didn't have to. I appreciate your statement. I look forward to engaging with you on other topics.
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Legit hatred


You said this but didn't elaborate. Your comments afterward were talking about the problem, but not the situation.
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I'm ethnically Jewish


For what it is worth, you don't have to discern between ethnicity and religion. All Jewish people, unlike other groups, benefit from both at the same time. Hope that helps. Trust me. I am a jew. My father converted my family when I was 10. However I now am saved by Christ.
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t’s not about supporting an individual. It’s about whether or not someone can attack someone else because they are offended by what that other person did. The ramifications of this are bigger than one person.


First question - attack physically or verbally?

Second - the other person as an individual or as a member of a group?
If it was legitimate hatred, what would you do? It looks like you are looking for people to support your cause because you wouldn't have done anything and you are hoping someone else will.

Why should I care about this interaction? If you can't answer that, then you shouldn't have posted this. Tell me why. Put your position up front and don't weakly ask people to condemn things without reference.
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I don't like how they keep coming back to this idea that they're "demons." As much as I support Trump, if he starts going down this route with it, I'm going to check out on at least this part of his agenda.


For some reason, many UFO people fight tooth and nail against Christianity in discussions although both require faith to believe in at this point. I think they are terrified that both may be inextricably mixed, because then that would provide justification for both and many of their lifestyles aren't prepared for the type of impact that would have for them. True ontological shock indeed!
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You mean most young adults are naive and ignorant?! Huge shock lol

The 45 to 55 age range and below was pro Massie. I don't think anyone has called 45 to 55 young adults. It's more like old people are the only ones voting a certain way.
It is a shame you are being so snarky. No moment or pause for introspection. I do, truly, value your input. You make it so indigestible to everyone that your wonderful insight is lost. I'm not going to engage with you in this thread any further, but I think it is a tragedy that you do not seek to refine your technique to be more amiable.
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When you can adequately explain how it's relevant to a discussion of a Republican primary, I'll answer


I'm not begging for your response. My statement was a statement and it stands. Your input on many topics has been frequently incorrect and inflammatory many times. If you want to refute my comment, feel free to do so. My comment to you was an attempt to educate you that your style is not conducive to interaction on these boards and your education and understanding could be better employed here to inform people rather than being the abrasive arse you apparently enjoy being.
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WE GOT A REFERENTIAL ARGUMENT ATTEMPT


I'm not in debate club, and neither are most of the posters here. There are no gotcha points for breaking the debate rules "counselor". If you want to avoid addressing the merits of the comment because it disagrees with you and instead shift to rules of debate, then that reflects poorly on you. I have said what I said, and you can choose to use your big brain to extract the meaning and respond or you can deflect. Your choice.
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But the hypocrisy from so many posters and their utter irrational MDS is always good for a laugh.

They have lost the right moving forward to ever pretend they want small government


Hypocrisy is an argument used against the right only. Can you cite any incidences of hypocrisy from the left and how that impacted their movement?
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if Cornyn, easy win. If Paxton, Talarico has a decent chance.


People don’t like the truth you’re typing.


bullshite. You don't understand how many people are straight ticket voters. There is NO WAY they decide to vote for a DEMOCRAT over a Republican because of the issues with a candidate. If Paxton gets the nomination he is in. Hell, I voted for Cornyn two times over the Democrat in Texas because I had no other option KNOWING he was a piece of shite that never returned a response to multiple messages. Not even a fricking form letter. frick that guy. Now that I have a choice, I aim to make it count. If Cornyn wins, I'll probably vote dem because I hate him that much. I don't think I'm alone.
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MAGA is personality based, not ideologically based


That is exactly why it failed. Yet you continue to frame ALL the goings on from the right as if it hadn't. The evidence shows Trump is losing voters, but that is because of what he has done. It isn't as if those people have suddenly abandoned their principles. This is an indictment of Trump and his actions, not the principles that gained him votes.
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MAGA is exactly like Progressive white women, you folks will believe anything that confirms your personal bias


Have you figured out that "MAGA" is NOT the core movement from the right? It is like back in the day when "tea party" was the too late go to reference because it had been corrupted. You are living in a time (once again) where the core voting block has moved on from the corrupted movement. The only reason you can't address it is because it has enormous power right now, but it has not been named so people on the left can objectify it and use Saul Alinsky's rules for radicals to defeat it