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re: Iran stops all negotiation with U.S. — Promises to completely block Strait of Hormuz.

Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:38 am to
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13429 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:38 am to
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We should go full tilt in destroying everything that moves and every military target around the strait.

They've been planning and deploying their assets in such a way as to make that highly impractical. I mean, we could do it. But it would take basically sacrificing our SEAL boat teams in close quarters fights in extremely hostile terrain. Plus amphibious landing of marines on mined and guarded beaches.

The coast of Iran is a nightmare of rocky cliffs, inlets, islands, and perfect places to hide. A defensive wet dream and an assaulting nightmare.

Basically the ideas has been studied, proposed, and firmly rejected. We can't root them out of there without losing a significant percentage of our special forces. It simply can't be done from the air. And it would be too costly to do from the ground.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17296 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:39 am to
What would happen if we just did nothing and just said let the world solve this problem?
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16825 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:39 am to
There is no logical spin. Prior to war, Iran had nuclear dust buried. The Straits were open and gas was on the way down, as well as the costs of fertilizer and other global essentials.

Now, farmers cannot afford to farm, food costs are going up, fuel costs up, straits are closed and controlled by Iran.

There is no spin for anyone that’s not an absolutist Trumper.

That’s not to mention that Netanyahu has been claiming Iran has been close to have a nuke since 1992.

This is all about Israel wanting total control of the region. I think one of two things happened: Venezuela gave Trump a false sense of things; or he was blackmailed by Israel.

You cannot make sense of it otherwise.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
7051 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:40 am to
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They are NOT going to negotiate in good faith.


That tends to happen when you bomb the frick out of someone and destroy schools full of kids.

This is a quagmire and unless Trump decides to go all in on this bullshite, we're just going to keep seeing this play out over and over again.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23086 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:40 am to
This is all part of the plan. You panicans just can't see it! Celestial interdimensional 9D chutes and ladders, as foretold by Q. The storm is coming and it will be weathered by a gold Trump tower along the Caspian Sea
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158202 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:41 am to
Power plant day [ON] off
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3699 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:41 am to
Time to call their bluff…..
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18772 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:43 am to
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Why in the hell is our President so determined to negotiate with people who only undrestand one sided deals...?


I suspect a big part of this prolonged “negotiation “ is buying time for something we don’t know about.

Intelligence for targeting, resupply, military rotations, etc. I don’t think it’s purely to negotiate.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16321 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:43 am to
LOL they are the ones wanting all the wars to end. But the US is buying time covering for Israel while they continue their invasion into Lebanon and genocide in Gaza. Then you get mad at Iran for giving up on talks since the west wont stop its wars. Hypocritical and hilarious how fake you morons are.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173958 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:43 am to
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Who attacked who first is just a matter of picking a point in time and can be manipulated to fit an agenda, just like the conflict in Gaza.

Seems pretty clear that Israel and the United States started this current conflict
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18772 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:45 am to
Terrorist supporter.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9284 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:46 am to
Honest question…

What do we bomb? If we’ve taken all military bases and equipment, what do we hit next? Is that the constraint we are facing?

I don’t think we’ve got a winning strategy if we are left bombing civilians in hopes we hit enough leaders to change the course of all of this.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22532 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:47 am to
All this needless back and forth with these hadji fricks. Let Israel nuke this terroristic country.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24074 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:47 am to
This is the prelude to the US and Israel just putting the foot on the gas and destroying the country. I read an article about this and attached it to a thread yesterday. The Iranians have given no indication they will give up their nuclear ambitions nor their ability in drones or ballistic missiles to threaten neighbors with the closing of the strait, bombing their oil infrastructure or otherwise be a menace. So we will destroy their infrastructure, bankrupt the country and put down any attacks on their populace who will, with our assistance, take it to the clerics and IRGC.
Posted by RobertFootball
SC
Member since Mar 2021
2655 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:48 am to
Whatever they’re using to block the straight, bomb that. Why we haven’t done that yet is beyond me.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13429 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:49 am to
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What would happen if we just did nothing and just said let the world solve this problem?

If only we had elected a President who promised to do just this. Unfortunately with high oil prices, deficit spending, protecting the Epstein files, inflation, and ME wars, we've got Biden 2.0
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16321 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:50 am to
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BobBoucher


Genocide loser, war monger, western terrorist supporter.
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 11:51 am
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16825 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:50 am to
Yeah, let’s nuke someone to keep them from getting nukes. That makes total sense.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45607 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:50 am to
Can we just bomb Iran until it is Persia again?
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
2445 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:50 am to
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I'd acknowledgment that I saw this coming .... and pretty much every American saw this coming Why in the hell is our President so determined to negotiate with people who only undrestand one sided deals...? Trump needs to stop fricking around TAke the strait, open up oil and frick these demonic fools pound them, then bury them


Probably because when we first bombed them people cried. We tried diplomacy and it didn’t work. We are dealing with a rogue military that will harm their own people.
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