BobBoucher

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Possible that it may drop below prewar pricing due to demand destruction.

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Add Venezuela’s contribution, new supply routes and our higher production and we could see record lows for the past decade.

If that’s real, it’s a bad deal.

What have we gained? They’ve always said they weren’t pursuing a nuke. So it’s the same thing.

They maintain status quo on nukes. They aren’t forced to eliminate anything. Status quo is “we aren’t developing nukes”. No change there.

They get money. They get sanctions relief. That arguably worse than before.

No mention of ending proxies.

What did we achieve other than setting their program back a few years?

Iran can make the case they won strategically. Their Hormuz closure paid off. Even without a functioning military, they didn’t really concede anything.

That’s a huge moral victory. They will be emboldened. Future administrations will see this as a failure and be more apprehensive about reining them in.

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Israeli media: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told U.S. President Trump that Israel does not consider itself bound by the Lebanon-related provisions of the emerging U.S.-Iran agreement

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Nor should they. They can’t abdicate their security to someone else. Esp when they are the on brink of exterminating Hezbollah terrorism permanently.

Why should they stop? It’s between Israel and Lebanon. Iran has nothing to do with it.

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Agreed... but, there's something about telling someone what you're going to do before you do it that, if it works, makes it so much more impactful given that they still couldn't do anything about it.

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Iran will do something like sabotage it or have a plan to make it useless (cut off oil pipelines to Karg).


I wonder if it’s in range for small portable weapons like RPGs or MANPADs. Hopefully not.

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We don't know what the outcome of this will ultimately be.

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If ithe outcome is consistent with his doctrine, it’s a win right?

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If you want to be accurate you can say that. We attacked them unprovoked.

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That’s one way to look at it.

Another is that Trumps doctrine is no nuclear program and no more terror proxies for Iran and this is his means to that end. He sees what they are doing with Hamas, Hezbollah and Houths.


Damned Trump for making the world a safer place right?

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Trump has lost control of the situation.

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I’d suggest he’s changed his position, and that is the root cause of the issue.

If Trump tells Iran they have no control over another sovereign nation (Lebanon) - which should be the case - it frees Isreal to eliminate Hezbollah and allows US to focus pressure on Iran.

Instead, Trump is throwing Hezbollah a lifeline. That’s the part I don’t get. It perpetuates what he originally set out to eliminate.

When you throw a terrorist organization a lifeline, you look like you are negotiating from a position of weakness.

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Let Israel strike Let them defend themselves and stay out of it completely

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Yeah - I don’t get why Trump would take such a weak position

We have a rare opportunity to separate Lebanon from Iran. Trumps proposal would preserve it which is a huge risk to Israel.

Can’t blame them for taking care of Israel first.

This is a head scratcher for me.

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All I care is about is what is happening in this country, bro.

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Are you saying that your personal interest is only in domestic politics, or are you saying that international politics, economics, and national security shouldnt be a thing for the US?

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I love how Potato Stelter has to chime in.

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“Hey look at me. I have sources. I’m still relevant”.

Terrorist supporter.