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re: Intermittent fasting linked to 91% increase in risk of death from heart disease, study.

Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:53 am to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:53 am to
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I've always taken my coffee with sugar and haven't been able to break that yet


Try stevia. It's natural (from a plant) and no medical side effects like artificial sweeteners might have. I love it in coffee.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54783 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:00 pm to
Intermitten Fasting

PRO = helps the Beetus
CON = hurts the heart

Like older dudes taking thinks like Nugenex for the libido but assuring earlier heart disease.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
3483 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:02 pm to
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Try stevia. It's natural (from a plant) and no medical side effects like artificial sweeteners might have. I love it in coffee.



I've tried it and sadly, not a fan. It has a very strange taste to me for some reason. Agave syrup has worked pretty well in other things like tea, but nothing is quite as good as sugar in coffee.

I used to drink black coffee way back in the day and have been slowly reducing the amount I use, hoping to get back to having it black in the next month or two.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112570 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:45 pm to
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I've tried it and sadly, not a fan. It has a very strange taste to me for some reason. Agave syrup has worked pretty well in other things like tea, but nothing is quite as good as sugar in coffee.


You might try accommodation. I did this with skim milk. It tasted like water. I forced myself to drink it and after a dozen times there was none available one day so I used whole milk again. It was like heavy cream and totally disgusting. My taste had changed and I went happily back to skim.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17321 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:36 pm to
wasnt a fan of stevia or monk fruit for the same reason - vaguely metallic aftertaste

have you tried allulose? thats the only no-calorie “natural” sweetener that works for me, doesnt make my coffee as sweet as sugar does but much more palatable than anything else, real or artificial

problem is finding it in pure form and not mixed with other ingredients (although the blends aren’t too bad)
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
4983 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:41 pm to
Dr. Berg on YouTube disagrees.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
688 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:54 pm to
I eat once every 24 hours. What meal that will be is strictly dependent on when I'm hungry. Today I ate a big breakfast. I won't eat again until tomorrow at breakfast, or maybe, most likely, lunch. I rarely eat dinner. I regularly go 36 hours without food. It's just not a big deal, and it works for me and makes me feel better.

Having stomach issues affects one's love affair with food. IF has made huge improvements to my stomach problems, as they're non-existent now as long as I stay carnivore and don't drink alcohol.

I feel much better when I don't eat several times a day. Very few average Americans NEED 3 full meals a day, let alone snacks in between.

Our digestive system is the only one that never gets any rest. We eat and drink sugary, processed garbage for breakfast, then have a big carbohydrate loaded lunch, a snack at 3pm, a snack when we get home, then eat a big dinner, and wonder why we're burping, farting and shitting all the time, and can't figure out why young people getting colon cancer is now becoming an epidemic. We go to bed and wake up with shite food in our gut 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, our entire lives.

If people would really listen to their body, they'd realize within a few days that they're not actually, in NEED of food, they're just used to eating when their brain tricks them into thinking they're hungry. Within a couple weeks of eating when their body tells them to, they'd never go back to the 3 meals a day American diet.

My wife was taking a remedial course for her job and the instructor, who's on ozempic, had to cancel the class because she tried to eat lunch and wound up throwing up and shitting her pants. It amazes me that people will do that to themselves when they're equipped with the biological capabilities to do it naturally. It's a matter of 14 days of will power and listening to your body, but instead they will shite their pants to bypass that process. Meanwhile, big pharma and medicine and their political and bureaucrat investors make money hand over fist, and their media puts out this trash for the sheep to lap it up with, and make no mistake, they will devour this garbage article like they do their medications.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1969 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:16 pm to
Who knew eating less poisoned food puts you at less of a risk of dying.

I’m not a fan of intermittent fasting unless you’re obese, in which case yes, put the fork down.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18053 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:22 pm to
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I've always heard fasting is good for a person.


USC did a big study on water fasting (i think 48hours+ durations) and found the impacts on stem cell production and white blood cells were rather incredible. It was the equivalent to a $50k stem cell therapy treatment.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:27 pm to
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Now I just have to figure out a good trick to wake up at 500-530 consistently.

Get old. It worked for me.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21836 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:28 pm to
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the instructor, who's on ozempic, had to cancel the class because she tried to eat lunch and wound up throwing up and shitting her pants.


That's one way to lose weight.....
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68845 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:31 pm to
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Intermittent fasting is a magic bullet and goddamnit the government cannot tell me what time to eat.


Oh they will. They already did a trial run on what time you were allowed to grocery shop.

We will all be eating grubs at the designated time.


Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4534 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:47 pm to
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It has stories of not eating curing psychoses, helped with chemotherapy and cancer.

This actually make sense. Fasting works by allowing your liver time to offload fats and sugars, and nasty things it's being forced to clean up, while no new loads of fat and sugar are coming in. Essentially a liver detox, and there's a whole host of positive side effects throughout the rest of your cellular functions that come with that.

For folks eating the standard processed American diet based on the food pyramid this can have a huge positive impact, allowing their liver to rid itself of excess sugars and toxins, and unhealthy fats.


Also, prayer and fasting are two of the most effective weapons against the devil.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101611 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:55 pm to
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I've always taken my coffee with sugar and haven't been able to break that yet


Try stevia. It's natural (from a plant) and no medical side effects like artificial sweeteners might have. I love it in coffee.


I don't generally eat in the mornings, but I drink two cups of coffee, each with about half a teaspoon of sugar (8 calories) and a barely splash of whole milk.

I've always assumed that's so negligible calorie-wise that I am intermittently fasting as much as anyone.

Am I wrong?
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
2414 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:57 pm to
Yes, a major benefit from intermittent fasting is getting the body into ketosis. Sometimes your body does not enter that state when you introduce calories.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423213 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:57 pm to
There are some who think anything other than water violates the laws of IF

Some say plain coffee is OK

Some say coffee w milk is OK

I doubt any of the above would really affect much.

IF gets very culty like so many health philosophies these days
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101611 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:02 pm to
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Yes, a major benefit from intermittent fasting is getting the body into ketosis. Sometimes your body does not enter that state when you introduce calories.



So, you are saying 8 or 16 calories can completely throw that off? I'd love to see THOSE studies.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423213 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:08 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 3:15 pm
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11750 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:47 pm to
It’s another fake report from your buddies on the left. Get with the program dude
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8343 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:47 pm to
The Dark Horse podcast did a full breakdown of this research paper and the accompanying headlines it generated

Cliff notes are…
1) The research done in the original paper was pitifully constructed
2) The news distorted the already pitiful research into an even more extreme headline with absolutely no connection to the already pitiful research



Essentially, the news scoured every abstract in the American Medical Association’s annual conference, found the most extreme conclusion any of those hundreds of various papers, and hyperbolized it even further (for those that don’t know, you have to pay to present at these conferences, so they virtually never turn down a submitted paper, no matter how flimsy it is… so there is always some crazy, fringe shite presented at every conference like this)

Our media is fricking pitiful. It’s pure clickbait
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 5:43 pm
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