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Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:01 am to Wednesday
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Intermittent fasting is a magic bullet and goddamnit the government cannot tell me what time to eat.
Intermittent fasting does to your body what Ozempic does with chemicals. It improves sleep, mood, hormone balance, and promotes weight loss. This bullshite finding highlighted by Dore - is PROPAGANDA for Big Pharma.
yup.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:05 am to Zach
i have used 18-6 IF. fast from 6 pm to noon next day. 18 hours.
then consume 150 calorie protein shakes @ 12, 2, 4, then @ 6 PM my lone meal of the day with mainly protein with a certain amount of allotted calories.
The results are surreal.
article is complete BS.
then consume 150 calorie protein shakes @ 12, 2, 4, then @ 6 PM my lone meal of the day with mainly protein with a certain amount of allotted calories.
The results are surreal.
article is complete BS.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:06 am to kingbob
The pharmaceutical industry wants to sell you a pill that does the same things as IF.
Just like they did a study that is written to say eating a THC gummy raises your l likelihood of heart attack. They don’t want people using THC for things they sell pills for.
THC raises blood pressure for about 30 minutes but then lowers it for several hours which is why people have red eyes due to low blood pressure.
I don’t see how that can long term cause a heart attack in an otherwise healthy person. I get the same increase and decrease of blood pressure during my jogs.
Just like they did a study that is written to say eating a THC gummy raises your l likelihood of heart attack. They don’t want people using THC for things they sell pills for.
THC raises blood pressure for about 30 minutes but then lowers it for several hours which is why people have red eyes due to low blood pressure.
I don’t see how that can long term cause a heart attack in an otherwise healthy person. I get the same increase and decrease of blood pressure during my jogs.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:07 am to Fat Bastard
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have used 18-6 IF. fast from 6 pm to noon next day. 18 hours. then consume 150 calorie protein shakes @ 12, 2, 4, then @ 6 PM my lone meal of the day with mainly protein with a certain amount of allotted calories. The results are surreal. article is complete BS.
Sounds like you might be Skinny Bastard before too long.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:08 am to notsince98
I’ll go about 18 hours fast a couple of times per week by just skipping breakfast.
Add in a 24 hour about once/month. I can feel the positive effects more for this longer time. I’ve read that testosterone production for males start to naturally increase after 18 hours.
I’ve wanted to try the 3 day fast at least once but sounds tough.
Add in a 24 hour about once/month. I can feel the positive effects more for this longer time. I’ve read that testosterone production for males start to naturally increase after 18 hours.
I’ve wanted to try the 3 day fast at least once but sounds tough.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:09 am to GumboPot
I mean I wouldn’t be surprised at all if a large number of the population is intermittent fasting without trying. I mean to say someone only eats say between 11AM and 7PM wouldn’t be crazy. Many people don’t eat breakfast for lack of time to do so.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:13 am to Honest Tune
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They basically just want people to have zero clue what’s true or not. Well, the people that would believe what the news tells them, that is.
Our society is one big psy op.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:18 am to litenin
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I’ve wanted to try the 3 day fast at least once but sounds tough.
After the first day it is easy. Dana White did one drinking electrolytes and bone broth after day 1.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:21 am to Wednesday
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The fasting helps regulate your insulin. Basically it’s work to digest food. It spikes insulin,
That's my point, though; not all foods spike glucose. I could skip breakfast or just have whey protein mixed in whole milk and my glucose levels were still at baseline either way. I'm a bit of an outlier in that I don't care about calories; I weigh the same regardless. I was interested in the insulin part because I have a parent with Alzheimer's.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:22 am to boogiewoogie1978
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Eggs are the best food you can eat.
Yep. Love eggs. Put a fried egg on a roadkill possum and I will eat it. Restocking on my way home from work today, prices going back up.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:28 am to GumboPot
I've always heard fasting is good for a person.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:29 am to McLemore
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A) how does one even design such a study? Epidemiological questionnaires? Following the subjects long enough to see them die and apparently at such a rate that we should be dropping pamphlets over Silicon Valley? Control groups. Confounding factors. B) what is “intermittent fasting”? We all fast intermittently from dinner until break…fast unless we late-night snack or get up and eat in the middle of the night. C) this 91% is so outrageous as to lead someone to ignore the “study” altogether. Obviously we’re talking relative v. absolute risk and likely a sample size small enough to render crazy scary numbers. But this is likely the least of the issues.
I’m sure this is answered in the “study” and commentary on it. I don’t have time for this shite. I have to go not eat.
The linked article from Forbes discussing said medical journal article, which has only released the abstract and not the full study:
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The researchers, led by Victor Zhong of the Shanghai Jiao Tong University School of Medicine, analyzed data from about 20,000 adults included in the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey.
The study looked at answers to questionnaires along with death data from 2003 through 2019. Because it relied in part on forms that required patients to recall what they ate over two days, scientists said there was room for potential inaccuracies. About half of the patients were men and the mean age was 48.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:34 am to boogiewoogie1978
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Eggs are the best food you can eat. Period
High in protein. Low in carbs. Dense so the body is satisfied
Eggs are a power food. Quite possibly THE power food. I don't what these doctors or scientists say. I will continue to eat eggs.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:43 am to Flats
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I'd be curious to know if the lack of calories is the main driver of the benefit or if it's eliminating a glucose spike.
Anybody trying to improve their metabolic health should wear a CGM for a month or two. I was very surprised at what foods did what, and it's not remotely the same for everybody.
There is a guy on IG (eddie abbew) who wears a monitor. Also does IF and his main talking point is zero sugar and to stop eating most processed foods. His diet is eggs, meat and some vegetables. He is a former bodybuilder (maybe Mr. Olympia??) and is older now and tries to get people to stop eating "shite". I think saying shite is his favorite word...
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:56 am to Zach
I started intermittent fasting late last November in order to get my weight back down to the weight I was for most of my life. I don't eat between 9:00pm and Noon. I've always taken my coffee with sugar and haven't been able to break that yet. Also adjusted my diet to exclude most alcohol and processed foods. I still eat crackers and some stuff like that, but have been phasing them out.
I've gone from nearly 195 pounds down to 175, previously had high blood pressure and that has gotten back to a normal range as well now. Big Pharma must have paid for this BS; every indicator from my doctors is that fasting has been highly beneficial and improved my health.
I've gone from nearly 195 pounds down to 175, previously had high blood pressure and that has gotten back to a normal range as well now. Big Pharma must have paid for this BS; every indicator from my doctors is that fasting has been highly beneficial and improved my health.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 11:03 am
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:16 am to The Boat
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o get my bearings here… this is a fake study lying about the risks of intermittent fasting when intermittent fasting is actually good?
Correct. I do IF about 5 days a week and swear by it
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:21 am to GumboPot
This study appears to be one of those “we want this outcome so let’s create a study to meet that outcome” type of study the new aged research community is doing
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:33 am to GumboPot
I have no idea what this OP is trying to communicate. I just know I’ve eaten one meal a day (for the most part) for over a decade and I’m a stallion.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:53 am to Pettifogger
In her 2009 article "Drug Companies & Doctors: A Story of Corruption", published in The New York Review of Books magazine, Angell wrote :[7]
...Similar conflicts of interest and biases exist in virtually every field of medicine, particularly those that rely heavily on drugs or devices. It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine .
wikipedia
...Similar conflicts of interest and biases exist in virtually every field of medicine, particularly those that rely heavily on drugs or devices. It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine .
wikipedia
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