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re: If you believe Israel is sovereign and Jews the right to their own state you’re a Zionist
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:13 am to hashtag
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:13 am to hashtag
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most American's would be okay with this. But the reality is that it is closer to:
When America protects its borders its good (we haven't tried to gain land in your lifetime)
When Israel ask America to pay and help protect its borders and gain land, its bad.
If you people would be intellectually honest, it would help the conversation.
We do the same for other countries such as in Europe and they are bad uncooperative woke allies
At least Israel is cooperative & protects its borders
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:13 am to hashtag
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pretty awful attempt at quoting scripture.
Yeah, but I figure I'm dealing with an antisemitic dude who uses scripture to beat people over the head.
Regardless, I figured I'd flush out one of you demoniacs lurking on the periphery of TD.
Okay, let's review biblical description of God's love for His chosen people. God choose the Hebrews (aka Jews) as his own people. He then leads them out of bondage from under an "oppressive" Pharaoh and under the leadership of Moses guides them through the desert for 40 years.Eventually God led them into the Promised Land. A land "flowing with milk and honey" and occupied by several nations - including the Canaanites, along with Amorites, Hittites, Jebusites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Girgashites (Hint: these nations didn't like it either that their God handed possession of this land to these newbies). Observing God's actions in regards to this Promised Land acquisition - God tends to kick out the non-believers (aka enemy of Israel) and if they resist He (God) sends a strong leader to defeat them. Enter one Donald J. Trump.
You should grab the Bible you presume to lecture me on - and read Exodus. It's all there in black and white. (hint: thousands of Jews waundering in the desert year in and year out and always there's order and purpose - no small miracle)
Now reflect on this .......... the man sent by God (Donald Trump) is now engaged in the process of destroying Israel's sworn enemy and the No.1 sponsor of terrorism in the world - IRAN.
Now growl and gnash your teeth.
But be nice.
Trump 2026 - he took a bullet from an assassin sent by Iran
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 9:51 am
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:14 am to the808bass
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Can I believe that Israel is sovereign and Jews the right to their own state without having to work a third job to pay for that?
Holy hyperbole, Batman.
So, Yes?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:16 am to the808bass
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Leftists only believe colonialism is good if Marxists do it.
Well stated - and irrefutable, based on over a half century of evidence.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:24 am to Purple Spoon
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seems to be the same people who hate Israel also think America is on stolen land and we have no right to be here as a nation
I fricking hate Israel with a passion and still think that this country wouldn’t have prospered if it wasn’t for European immigration.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:32 am to Powerman
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Why does a religion have some right to their own state?
Now do that with radical islam.
We had a world war - most of Europe was gravely injured - mostly because of irrational hatred for Jews when Jews had no 'state' of their own.
Millions of people worldwide died to rid the world to that anti-semetic evil. Jewish people were given their own homeland in their biblical site of origin. That may not have been the "perfect" solution in the eyes of people who had no stake in the radiation of the war-inducing evil.
The USA has been defending and supporting the whole world - on both sides of that WWII conflict - ever since.
NOW the same evil that elevated territorial disputes a century ago into WWII now hold the world hostage - demanding they be allowed to finish a century's lapse in their desire to erase Jewish from the face of the earth.
The same nation that rose up to defend the rest of the world then seems to be the only nation that wants to defend those moral values now.
I was born when the hatred that initiated that world war erupted.
I hope to die before it erupts again.
I most sincerely want to die with a comfortable belief that that hatred will never again put civilization as we know it at risk again.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 9:35 am
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:36 am to Mike da Tigah
And if you believe that but don’t support Netanyahu’s Greater Israel Project or the MO of IDF, then you’re an antisemite?
A Zionist antisemite lol.
A Zionist antisemite lol.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:36 am to OccamsStubble
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So, Yes?
What percentage of your tax dollars went to Israel last year?
Take personal tax revenues collected.
Divide the amount of aid to Israel for the year by the total personal tax revenues collected.
Multiple that number by your total federal tax obligation.
Report back.
(You won’t.)
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:38 am to Mike da Tigah
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If you believe Israel is sovereign and Jews the right to their own state you’re a Zionist
No, you're wrong. Go back and do some research.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:39 am to Louisianalabguy
That is a completely acceptable definition of Zionism.
It does not encompass all Zionists.
It is the view of many people who are termed “Zionists.”
It does not encompass all Zionists.
It is the view of many people who are termed “Zionists.”
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:40 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:people still believe this?
We had a world war - most of Europe was gravely injured - mostly because of irrational hatred for Jews when Jews had no 'state' of their own. Millions of people worldwide died to rid the world to that anti-semetic evil.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:44 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Yeah. That’s not a great framing of the causes of WW2.
Did Nazis target and mass murder Jews?
Did Nazis target and mass murder Jews?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:46 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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people still believe this?
The 70+ crowd seems to be doubling down on it.
Now it’s not just that Naziism was an overreaction to decadence or the machinations of the bankers or simply that Naziism was an evil that had to be stopped, but that any and all criticism of Jews is “irrational hatred”.
Not only are Jews not causing problems in the world, they’re actually the only righteous people (religion, race, ???) and we aren’t even worthy to question their actions.
It’s beyond parody.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:47 am to GeorgePaton
quote:History of the world ain't it! Folks kicking arse and taking land.
A land occupied by several nations - including the Canaanites, along with Amorites, Hittites, Jebusites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Girgashites
Defend it or lose it.
Whoever sits on a piece of land over there (and elsewhere) is the rightful owner.
Their religion has little to do with it atm.
I'm a Zionist? I'll add that to my resume.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:57 am to TigerBaitOohHaHa
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They do, however, truly believe that Israel has no right to exist, because of Jews=bad, and well.. the fact that the other team is brown and brown is good.
They have taken over every other country in the area. Everything in green is muz.

Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:01 am to Redbone
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Whoever sits on a piece of land over there (and elsewhere) is the rightful owner.
Then I suggest you take it up with the God of Abraham (aka the God of the Jews).
But always.......be nice.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:02 am to Mike da Tigah
Whether you believe they have a "right" to their own state misses the mark on reality. They are a state and they do have a right to defend themselves.
How they do it sometimes is a matter for debate and warranted criticism.
How they do it sometimes is a matter for debate and warranted criticism.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:04 am to the808bass
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What percentage of your tax dollars went to Israel last year? Take personal tax revenues collected. Divide the amount of aid to Israel for the year by the total personal tax revenues collected. Multiple that number by your total federal tax obligation. Report back. (You won’t.)
I don’t need to. Direct money sent there is dwarfed by the money we spend defending gulf allies not named Israel against the perceived threat of other gulf allies and the perceived threat from Israel.
Hard to justify that seeing that we’re flat broke.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:04 am to the808bass
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Breakdown the number of Christians killed in Israel last year.
Why would I do a lazy man's work for him?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:09 am to hawgfaninc
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We do the same for other countries such as in Europe and they are bad uncooperative woke allies
Frick them too
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