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re: If you believe Israel is sovereign and Jews the right to their own state you’re a Zionist

Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5862 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:59 pm to
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You should grab the Bible you presume to lecture me on - and read Exodus. It's all there in black and white. (hint: thousands of Jews waundering in the desert year in and year out and always there's order and purpose - no small miracle)


Why on Earth would I read the Jewish bible?

You should read the Christian bible my man.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5862 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 4:03 pm to
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My work?

You made the claim, bent dizzy bitch.


It is 2026 bitch. Your ignorance on how many Christians were killed due to Israel's indiscriminate shelling in Lebanon and other places is no longer acceptable.

Do some work for a change.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 4:04 pm
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5136 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 4:03 pm to
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Why does a religion have some right to their own state?


The country is Israel. Is majority religion in Jewish, but not solely Jewish. Just like Christianity is the largest in America, but there are others. Even Jewish in America too.

I fully believe Israel is capable of handling it's own affairs. The problem is we have a large segment of folks who have been brainwashed into believing their land is stolen. It's not.

There never was a nation of Palestine or country of Palestine that existed. Israel doesn't acknowledge them and neither does Egypt.

You have a large majority of antisemitic Jew haters on the Left and also those who are Muslims
Posted by Jasharts77
Knoxville
Member since Nov 2019
1108 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 4:09 pm to
Im one of them that believes Israel does not have a right to stolen land in a place with no DNA connection at all
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7795 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 4:18 pm to
I believe Israel does have the right to exist, and we should defend them as an ally - with limits. I no longer believe Israel has a divine right. When the Israelites rejected Christ as the Messiah, they ceased to be God's chosen people, and Christians became God's chosen. Does that make me antisemitic? No, it makes me apathetic.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13872 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 4:19 pm to
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Correct me if I’m looking at your analogy wrong, but it’s seems to be the same people who hate Israel also think America is on stolen land and we have no right to be here as a nation


You're wrong... because you seem to be claiming the only people who hate Israel are leftist America hating liberals... There is a huge and growing contingency on the right of Anti-Israel types and Jew haters.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:45 pm to
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Your ignorance on how many Christians were killed due to Israel's indiscriminate shelling in Lebanon and other places is no longer acceptable.


~20,000 Christians were killed by Muslims for their faith in Africa in 2025.

Not as collateral damage. Not on accident. But selected for death and solely killed because they were Christians.

You’re selectively outraged and partially informed.

You should be embarrassed. But you won’t be.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:46 pm to
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m one of them that believes Israel does not have a right to stolen land in a place with no DNA connection at all


What do you think about the United States?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173802 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:50 pm to
Mike is always good for the dumbest boomer take imaginable on every forum.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
18962 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:00 pm to
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Because one is self-sufficient and the greatest empire the world has ever seen politically, economically and militarily. The other is a pissant nation who depends on the larger of the two, and not only demands concessions from the greatest empire the world has ever known, they truly believe they control it and the people of that empire capitulate. We are the empire. They are pissants.
A tale as old as time...

They were a pain in the Romans' asses as well. Titus and Hadrian had to deal with it.
Posted by PastorJ
Member since Sep 2024
897 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:06 pm to
More than that, I am a Christian Zionist. The Woke Right (Reich?) hates that.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
18962 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:12 am to
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I am a Christian Zionist
What is your favorite description of Jesus Christ in the Babylonian Talmud?

The Reformation and it's consequences have been a disaster for Christianity. Put down your Schofield Bible.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117599 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 4:14 am to
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Ever stop to consider just who makes Zionism a dirty word?

Heard the word Zionist when I was a kid and thought it was a person who played a musical instrument.
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 4:15 am
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46873 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:21 am to
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The Reformation and it's consequences have been a disaster for Christianity. Put down your Schofield Bible.
You think the abuses of the Roman Catholic church or the split between the Eastern and Western churches showed the founding of the visible Church to be a disaster?

The Reformation was needed, and perhaps another one is needed, too. Regardless, many professing Christians are ignorant of their Bible’s which makes them more susceptible to error.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10115 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:11 am to
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Heard the word Zionist when I was a kid and thought it was a person who played a musical instrument


It’s a made up term designed to incite an emotion, similar to the quickly-coined mainstream media term in 2000 when GWB was nominated - evangelical!

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89090 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:26 am to
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There we go. Let it out.


Let it out?

He does a shitty job of hiding it in the first place.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173802 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:27 am to
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Here is a good example.

Powerman is only talking about one state. The Jewish one. No mention of any other state.


If Israel was a Christian nation, you wouldn't be saying the same things.



Give me an example of a Christian ethnostate that is an asylum for all Christians?

You can't because there isn't one
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2458 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:48 am to
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More than that, I am a Christian Zionist.


I question your loyalty to the United States if so. You place the interests of a foreign nation above all.

Tell me how you differ from anyone else waving a foreign flag and professing their allegiance to another nation from inside our borders.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5862 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:48 am to
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~20,000 Christians were killed by Muslims for their faith in Africa in 2025

Africa =/= Middle East.
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Not as collateral damage. Not on accident. But selected for death and solely killed because they were Christians

There are many, many articles and videos out there, for all the see...even the blind such as yourself...of the IDF purposefully firing on and killing Palestinian Christians as they tried to flee the fighting.
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You’re selectively outraged and partially informed

Your love of a false religion keeps you blind and partially informed.
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You should be embarrassed. But you won’t be

Ironic sentences.
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1933 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:56 am to
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There never was a nation of Palestine or country of Palestine that existed. Israel doesn't acknowledge them and neither does Egypt.

Wrong. There are still people with "Palestinian" passports. No longer due to zionist taking the country.
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