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re: If you believe Israel is sovereign and Jews the right to their own state you’re a Zionist
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:13 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:13 am to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:
but why? I’ve been saying this for years
No one, or everyone, has the “right to exist”
Well, the original land of modern Isreal was legally purchased. That gave them ownership. Property rights and all.
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:15 am to GeorgePaton
quote:So...you believe that the country of Israel with Prime Minister Ben Netanyahu is the exact equivalent of the descendants of Abram?
Yeah, but I figure I'm dealing with an antisemitic dude who uses scripture to beat people over the head.
Regardless, I figured I'd flush out one of you demoniacs lurking on the periphery of TD.
Okay, let's review biblical description of God's love for His chosen people. God choose the Hebrews (aka Jews) as his own people. He then leads them out of bondage from under an "oppressive" Pharaoh and under the leadership of Moses guides them through the desert for 40 years.Eventually God led them into the Promised Land. A land "flowing with milk and honey" and occupied by several nations - including the Canaanites, along with Amorites, Hittites, Jebusites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Girgashites (Hint: these nations didn't like it either that their God handed possession of this land to these newbies). Observing God's actions in regards to this Promised Land acquisition - God tends to kick out the non-believers (aka enemy of Israel) and if they resist He (God) sends a strong leader to defeat them. Enter one Donald J. Trump.
You should grab the Bible you presume to lecture me on - and read Exodus. It's all there in black and white. (hint: thousands of Jews waundering in the desert year in and year out and always there's order and purpose - no small miracle)
Now reflect on this .......... the man sent by God (Donald Trump) is now engaged in the process of destroying Israel's sworn enemy and the No.1 sponsor of terrorism in the world - IRAN.
Now growl and gnash your teeth.
But be nice.
Trump 2026 - he took a bullet from an assassin sent by Iran
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:23 am to the808bass
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Some Anti-Zionists believe Israel doesn’t have a right to exist.
Some do not ascribe to that.
Those in former camp are explicitly Hamas bros.
tons of Jewish people all over the world believe that Israel does not have a right to exist
Zionist doesn't mean "Jewish." Jewish doesn't mean "Zionist."
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:24 am to the808bass
quote:Does Lebanon have a right to exist?
Israel doesn’t have a right to exist.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:29 am to Murph4HOF
quote:
Does Lebanon have a right to exist?
he won't answer
he's a shite slinger
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:39 am to UtahCajun
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You do realize they hate you too.
You do realize they kill and harass just as many, if not more Christians than Muslim countries do.
Traveled the country in November. The Israeli people could not have been more welcoming or nicer to my old Christian self.
Sounds like you have fallen under the spell of Aleksandr Dugin.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:44 am to Mike da Tigah
Nah zionism is really about Palestinians not having a state if youre honest.
Also let me remind you that the official stance of the United States on the israel/palestine conflict is having a two state solution.
Also let me remind you that the official stance of the United States on the israel/palestine conflict is having a two state solution.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:49 am to Boodis Man
quote:
Nah zionism is really about Palestinians not having a state if youre honest.
Well, honestly speaking, they’ve been offered that state countless times and still they refuse because they don’t want a state. They want a Jew free Israel. That’s what they want, what they tell you they want.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:51 am to Murph4HOF
quote:
Does Lebanon have a right to exist?
Of course.
See how easy that is?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:52 am to dgnx6
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Replace zionist with jew and that's what he really means.
You are using zionist as a blanket slur to dehumanize people.
You think all Jewish people are the same and support Zionism?
Seems racist.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:53 am to the808bass
quote:
Those in former camp are explicitly Hamas bros.
There are groups of Hasidic Jews that are actually anti-Zionist.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:54 am to UtahCajun
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Why would I do a lazy man's work for him?
My work?
You made the claim, bent dizzy bitch.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:55 am to The Eric
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There are groups of Hasidic Jews that are actually anti-Zionist.
Sure. And there are Baptists who are anti-American and anti-Christian.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:59 am to GeorgePaton
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A friend of Israel is my friend and I will bless them, an enemy of Israel is my enemy and I will curse them. - Yahweh
There is a reason time and time again Israel has faced formidable opponents and defeated them. Starting with a young David armed with nothing but a sling shot facing and defeating Goliath (A Giant Philistine Warrior)
All this effort by Iran to incite America into war is designed to do four things: 1) defeat Donald J. Trump and MAGA, 2) install a pro-islamic operative in that Oval Office, 3) Destroy Israel 4) impose Sharia law on us.
......pretty straight forward, eh?
Israel was created in 1948, not 5000+ years ago.
I guess you missed that part.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:01 pm to Mike da Tigah
quote:
Well, honestly speaking, they’ve been offered that state countless times and still they refuse because they don’t want a state. They want a Jew free Israel. That’s what they want, what they tell you they want
Neither side wants the other to have a state. They both want everything and dont want to compromise. If that wasnt the case, israel wouldn't be expanding and seizing land
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:09 pm to GeorgePaton
quote:
Yeah, but I figure I'm dealing with an antisemitic dude who uses scripture to beat people over the head.
Regardless, I figured I'd flush out one of you demoniacs lurking on the periphery of TD.
Okay, let's review biblical description of God's love for His chosen people. God choose the Hebrews (aka Jews) as his own people. He then leads them out of bondage from under an "oppressive" Pharaoh and under the leadership of Moses guides them through the desert for 40 years.Eventually God led them into the Promised Land. A land "flowing with milk and honey" and occupied by several nations - including the Canaanites, along with Amorites, Hittites, Jebusites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Girgashites (Hint: these nations didn't like it either that their God handed possession of this land to these newbies). Observing God's actions in regards to this Promised Land acquisition - God tends to kick out the non-believers (aka enemy of Israel) and if they resist He (God) sends a strong leader to defeat them. Enter one Donald J. Trump.
You should grab the Bible you presume to lecture me on - and read Exodus. It's all there in black and white. (hint: thousands of Jews waundering in the desert year in and year out and always there's order and purpose - no small miracle)
Now reflect on this .......... the man sent by God (Donald Trump) is now engaged in the process of destroying Israel's sworn enemy and the No.1 sponsor of terrorism in the world - IRAN.
Now growl and gnash your teeth.
But be nice.
Trump 2026 - he took a bullet from an assassin sent by Iran
You seem to be missing a few thousand years of history here and the fact Israel wasn't created until 1948.
And are you trying to claim Trump is the Jewish Messiah?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:12 pm to Murph4HOF
quote:
Does Lebanon have a right to exist?
As long as Lebanon can stop hezbollah from firing rockets from within its own borders. If they cannot then they also should not exist.
End all Muslim jihadi terrorists and their enablers.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:25 pm to whereishobson
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their enablers.
They are enabled by the US and Israel to play the boogieman so they can justify their actions and greater agenda.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:39 pm to the808bass
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Yeah. That’s not a great framing of the causes of WW2. Did Nazis target and mass murder Jews?
This is the problem with modern political discourse. Everything with you people is black & white hyperbole. No one ever disputed that Nazis, eugenics, or genocidal racism were bad.
Have you never heard of Lebensraum?
Now how about the Greater Israel Project? Putin’s neo-imperialist crusades?
Like let’s just completely ignore the role of self-righteous militant expansionism in our analysis of “things likey to cause wars” lmao.
TLDR Holocaust was horrific. It was not the “cause” of WWII. Not even remotely.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:42 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Zionist doesn't mean "Jewish." Jewish doesn't mean "Zionist."
Agreed. If more Christians did their homework and found out what zionism really is, there would be no "Christian zionists". To summarize, zionism is a very dark and mainly political belief disguised as religion. Much like Islam. Go check it out.
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