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re: If MAGA is done who is the leader of America First?

Posted on 8/16/26 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by PastorJ
Member since Sep 2024
1412 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 10:52 pm to
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There are no substantial percentages of conservatives or liberals left. There are only leftist populists and rightist populists.

The quote is irrelevant in that context.


You're making a distinction without a difference. The quote is apropos.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15412 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 10:53 pm to
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and people will stop pretending that he does.


We agree on the premise, but I'm puzzled as to what you see that leads you to that conclusion.

Who else that is full of it has the American public stopped pretending isn't? What's your historical precedent for that conclusion?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15412 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 10:55 pm to
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You're making a distinction without a difference.




Not even close.

There's a HUGE GAPING difference between a rightist populist and a conservative.

Same on the other side (although not as big, admittedly, because populism is baked into liberalism. Which is why populism always pulls left. Which is why MAGA accepts so many leftist propositions without blinking.)
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17625 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 11:04 pm to
Desantis.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
111256 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 11:09 pm to
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More alters


Have some sympathy. Being banned hasn’t been easy for SFP.

eta: and he keeps DVing me for pointing out the obvious. He should relax, I don’t RA like a little bitch.
This post was edited on 8/16/26 at 11:32 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
64287 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 11:33 pm to
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If MAGA is done who is the leader of America First?
These are two different factions. MAGA aren’t “America first” They are Trump-first. Now they support outspending Biden, unlimited debt, monetary stimulus, more interventionist wars, and share many of Bernie and Liz Warren’s socialist policies. None of that is “America first”.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6917 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 11:33 pm to
MAGA/America First is an idea with a following. Very little policy is being made in Trump’s presidency and almost no long term change is being made. Everything he has accomplished is through EO’s.

Republicans can’t wait until he is out of office even if they have to sit through 4 to 6 years of Democrats leading the House and Senate.

MAGA will be gone like the Tea Party
This post was edited on 8/16/26 at 11:34 pm
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10639 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 1:09 am to
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There's a HUGE GAPING difference between a rightist populist and a conservative. Same on the other side (although not as big, admittedly, because populism is baked into liberalism. Which is why populism always pulls left. Which is why MAGA accepts so many leftist propositions without blinking.)





Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
176065 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 1:20 am to
Why would an America first movement require a singular leader?
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18990 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 2:05 am to
I wouldn't let Tucker clean out the shiitters
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
13784 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 4:03 am to
Whoever Trump tells you. Why would it be different than anything else?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
21602 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 4:07 am to
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Again you can’t name a leader for this America first that is going to take over maga. Incredible.


It’s Majorie’s time
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s hollow dome
Member since Feb 2009
160438 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 7:25 am to
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Whoever Trump tells you.


Indeed.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17241 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 7:26 am to
Trump isn’t even MAGA

Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
40569 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 7:28 am to
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Are you the Alaskan Alcoholic?



Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
13352 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 7:32 am to
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Trump isn’t even MAGA


great loads of anti-Trump circular masturbation in this thread
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17241 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 7:39 am to

Trump, who ran on a MAGA platform that called for things like ending wars and focusing instead on domestic issues and spending money to make America great, has engaged in a War in the Middle East, against Iran.

While there are conservatives minded people who agree with our engagement with Iran, they belong mostly to the Neo-con wing of the party that has allegiance to the Military Industrial Complex (MIC) and Israel. These are the Dick Cheney, Bush and Mcainiacs of the party.

Trump, for all the talk, turns out to be the same thing. He was never anti war or anti MIC. He’s always been a warmonger. It was just a matter of time before it was revealed.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
172508 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 8:09 am to
Has more than one answered honestly yet?

Is their leader Tucker, Flynn, Candace, Fuentes, MTG, Massie?

It has been insinuated Tucker said third party. Will Ross Perot Jill Stein voters steal from Ds or Rs?

Who in their fake AF group could break 2% in a regular primary? Or does Tucker think he has it to hijack MAGA by simply declaring MAGA dead as wishcasting?
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
2551 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 8:17 am to
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Why is it so hard to answer a simple question of who is in charge of America first movement?


Whichever politician or want to be leader publicly tells Israel and Ukraine to frick off, we have things we need to fix at home.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
40314 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 8:40 am to
Any ‘Leader’ that does not confront the corrupt Judiciary (Supreme Court included) and Urban, ‘Sanctuary Cities’ voter role atrocities will simply by default, hand the reins of power to the Dem Socialist Party. Wherein Totalitarian government will be voted in and implemented for the sake of “social justice” and “fundamental change “. Period. End of the Constitutional Republic.

And such a “confrontation” will necessarily be outside of the corrupt System. In plainspeak…muh Dictatorial. And there is not a ‘Conservative Leader’ sucking air that will own the blood of that enterprise.

Jesus Christ could not bring the two polar ideological factions together. Voting damn sure can’t when voting IS the problem. It’s “mob rule “ vs the Constitutional Republic.

Strap in.
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