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re: If MAGA is done who is the leader of America First?

Posted on 8/16/26 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by PastorJ
Member since Sep 2024
1015 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 10:52 pm to
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There are no substantial percentages of conservatives or liberals left. There are only leftist populists and rightist populists.

The quote is irrelevant in that context.


You're making a distinction without a difference. The quote is apropos.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14833 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 10:53 pm to
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and people will stop pretending that he does.


We agree on the premise, but I'm puzzled as to what you see that leads you to that conclusion.

Who else that is full of it has the American public stopped pretending isn't? What's your historical precedent for that conclusion?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14833 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 10:55 pm to
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You're making a distinction without a difference.




Not even close.

There's a HUGE GAPING difference between a rightist populist and a conservative.

Same on the other side (although not as big, admittedly, because populism is baked into liberalism. Which is why populism always pulls left. Which is why MAGA accepts so many leftist propositions without blinking.)
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17549 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 11:04 pm to
Desantis.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110626 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 11:09 pm to
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More alters


Have some sympathy. Being banned hasn’t been easy for SFP.

eta: and he keeps DVing me for pointing out the obvious. He should relax, I don’t RA like a little bitch.
This post was edited on 8/16/26 at 11:32 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63887 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 11:33 pm to
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If MAGA is done who is the leader of America First?
These are two different factions. MAGA aren’t “America first” They are Trump-first. Now they support outspending Biden, unlimited debt, monetary stimulus, more interventionist wars, and share many of Bernie and Liz Warren’s socialist policies. None of that is “America first”.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6899 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 11:33 pm to
MAGA/America First is an idea with a following. Very little policy is being made in Trump’s presidency and almost no long term change is being made. Everything he has accomplished is through EO’s.

Republicans can’t wait until he is out of office even if they have to sit through 4 to 6 years of Democrats leading the House and Senate.

MAGA will be gone like the Tea Party
This post was edited on 8/16/26 at 11:34 pm
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10519 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 1:09 am to
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There's a HUGE GAPING difference between a rightist populist and a conservative. Same on the other side (although not as big, admittedly, because populism is baked into liberalism. Which is why populism always pulls left. Which is why MAGA accepts so many leftist propositions without blinking.)





Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175639 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 1:20 am to
Why would an America first movement require a singular leader?
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18444 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 2:05 am to
I wouldn't let Tucker clean out the shiitters
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
13230 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 4:03 am to
Whoever Trump tells you. Why would it be different than anything else?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
21104 posts
Posted on 8/17/26 at 4:07 am to
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Again you can’t name a leader for this America first that is going to take over maga. Incredible.


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