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re: How many people still believe MAGA is conservative?

Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:20 am to
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4993 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:20 am to
"i am going to build a wall and mexico is going to pay for it." i can't think of one conservative politician who would have said this. most of them wanted illegals coming in. trump 45 had a republican congress the first 2 years and couldn't get money for that wall.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76507 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:22 am to
Donald isn't even a Republican, much less a Conservative.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41801 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:27 am to
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You asked the question about MAGA still being conservative, I think to answer this question honestly we need a detailed definition of what a conservative is today?


Small government
Balanced budget
Support for personal rights / liberties
Not benefiting one group over another with policy
A strong defensive military
Addressing our problems before other nations problems
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111774 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:27 am to
Compared to what?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38857 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:28 am to
Trump has never embraced the Conservative mantle and has never claimed to be one.

MAGA only likes to claim some sort of embrace of "conservative" values when the truth is they are largely populist like the old Democrats. Conservative on social issues, but somewhat liberal on the money end, if it is popular, like taking ownership stakes in certain private companies.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51957 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:28 am to
MAGA has never been conservative. Now he's promising $5k checks to every American adult if the GOP keeps congress
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
1733 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:29 am to
Repukes and Commie Dems are a GLOBAL UNI PARTY, they both sold our jobs out. Fools trying to label Trump are just ignorant of FACTS.

Trump is and always has been PRO America and the American Citizenry, you can call it what ever the hell you want, matters no in reality.

Trump is trying to get the country MOVING in the RIGHT DIRECTION, in order to get us out of this GREAT DEBT caused by Manufacturing Decline. We grew at 3.5 to 4 percent before COVID 19, we were well on our way to booming out of the debt cycle the Repukes and Commie Dems put us in. The tariffs are designed to bring back HIGH PAYING JOBS, and to thwart our reliance on the Foreign Manufacturing who take the business by undercutting us then RAISE PRICES once they have stolen our jobs, and SELL OUT Politicians on both sides are responsible for this.


Once those jobs come back, and those Illegals take out of our country, (Trump has already sealed the Border) then Housing prices will PLUNGE, and thus rent will also PLUNGE, a report a few days back by a Gov. Agency stated Housing prices went up 30% !! This is THE PLAN by the Rich Money Men funding both Rs & Ds. They are playing US citizens for fools, and you have a guy like this who sees nothin, he has not got a clue. The 5000 dollars is to bump the economy and is Trump saying we have stolen DOLLARS from you by increasing housing costs, and decreasing wages because we let in 25-100 million illegals into this nation, and because OUR INFLATION via OVER SPENDING had stolen your bank account savings, you are due 5000 but really we have stolen more that that via our crooked policies.

IMHO, all th Pols should be in jail, at least 75-90 percent.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
11246 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:29 am to
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MAGA is not conservative or liberal.. MAGA is MAGA which is weird to me that some people cannot understand this after 10 years


Yes. Rudderless.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
26311 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:30 am to
POTUS Trump is the most qualified person to deal with the problems facing America. That is a fact. He has been so good that he was able to draw out the communist and marxist who were biding their time.

Right now, they have no choice but to act. It is either now or 2076!!
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10310 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:33 am to
Conservatism as a party is a lie. It's just democrat lite. People are conservative because they want things to stay the same, but the party always changes.
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22375 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:40 am to
MAGA is a grift, pure and simple. It’s never been a republican ideal, and now the Republican party is unrecognizable. It’s actually sad the state of our political parties.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56755 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:42 am to
quote:

You asked the question about MAGA still being conservative, I think to answer this question honestly we need a detailed definition of what a conservative is today?


Small government
Balanced budget
Support for personal rights / liberties
Not benefiting one group over another with policy
A strong defensive military
Addressing our problems before other nations problems



Using your definition I can honestly say every MAGA/America First type I know would generally agree with your points but they would add .....

Mass deportations for every illegal alien

A balanced budget amendment

Congressional term limits

Legislation to omit non US citizens/illegals in calculating congressional apportionment

100% ban on members of congress trading stocks.

Severe penalties/fines for companies employing illegals.

Some realistic effort to rebalance academia with conservative teachers/professors

Some realistic and agreeable alternative to the Federal Reserve.


Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71349 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:44 am to
All conservatives did was bomb brown people, spy on me without a warrant, ruin public schools with no child left behind, and flood my community with 3rd world immigrants.

Trump seems to be taking meaningful steps on education and immigration. It’s not nearly everything I want, but it’s more than the left or the never-trump coalition is promising.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
7826 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:46 am to
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Trump isnt a conservative its why he won. Cuckservatives have been losers for a long time

My man, you really need a sit down with someone. You use that bolded word way too much. We all know the truth. It is time you let it out. You don't have to do it here. But one day really soon, you need to let a professional heal the damage done by having multiple trains run on women in your life (or men because it is 2026 and you do sound gay a lot, but I don't wanna judge).
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
3466 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:46 am to
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How many people still believe MAGA is conservative?


better question how many maga supporters don't care what you think or how you define conservatism, here's a clue massie bro it aint close to libtardtarianism.

now feel free to eat my schit!
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
118137 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:47 am to
Conservatism is relative. No American president in our history is half as conservative as me. So, I simply vote for the candidate who isn't communist. And now the Democrats have made this easier since they have accepted the label.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28752 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:47 am to
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Some policies are more important than others.


Okay.

Now how does that challenge anything I said?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
7826 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:48 am to
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Conservatism as a party is a lie. It's just democrat lite. People are conservative because they want things to stay the same, but the party always changes.

Sad but actually very true.

People bitch at true conservatives because they "don't do anything". No shite Sherlock. They are conservatives and wish to conserve things. The rest are just progressives.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
7826 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:49 am to
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dickkellog

Drunk again eh
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91879 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:51 am to
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MAGA is not conservative or liberal.. MAGA is MAGA which is weird to me that some people cannot understand this after 10 years


MAGA is not even about making America great - if it ever was.

Trump has done nothing to get in the way of the demise of this country. Nothing. Every dollar he has “saved” he has spent and then some.
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