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re: How many people still believe MAGA is conservative?

Posted on 9/10/26 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
12518 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 2:23 pm to
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No true republican would spend two years pissing off fellow republicans.


Where the hell have you been the last 10 years? There are plenty of "true conservative" Republicans here who get immense pleasure from pissing off MAGA Republicans.

The anti-Trump conservatives have spent a decade intentionally creating division on the right because MAGA stomped the shite out of their weak candidates.

Your attempts to blame MAGA for the behavior of the Trump haters is as pathetic as the left blaming conservatives for political violence.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17690 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 3:49 pm to
MAGA isn’t conservative as far as traditional conservative values are concerned. Trump never embodied that.

Now he’s pissed all over the values that were supposed to define MAGA like draining the swamp, fiscal restraint, Middle East involvement, getting rich off the government, protecting American workers, government control of business, etc
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
49735 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 4:10 pm to
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And so why is that?


Few reasons:

Too passive
Liberals stick together no matter how deranged
Some only pose as conservatives to get elected
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
11291 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 4:18 pm to
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Trump is just transactional. He's neocon or GOPe some days, Bernie socialist others, America First populist (whatever that even is now) on others. But, he doesn't really stand for anything and so trying to defend him on principle ends up in ritual humiliation.



Tariffs and border control are the only two issues he's ever stood for and been consistent on, going back 20 or 30 years.

The rest is just however he's feeling on that particular day after binging on cable news.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
92640 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 4:27 pm to
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Trump isnt a conservative its why he won.



Exactly. Conservatives hadn't won elections in a long time.


The "conservatives" on this board were voting neo liberals in who were pro war.


Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
30166 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:13 pm to
Trump has done nothing

What exactly did he promise that has not been made yet??
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
177156 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:15 pm to
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MAGA has never been Conservative... It is more of a modern Blue Dog Democrat.

Sure. If you don't know what a blue dog democrat is
Posted by PrettyLights
Member since Oct 2014
1529 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:18 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/11/26 at 7:35 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
45089 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:18 pm to
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How many people still believe MAGA is conservative?


There is no place for true conservatives in the Republican Party.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Arrogant Dickweed
Member since Jun 2004
200333 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:19 pm to
POST THE THREAD
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
30166 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:09 am to
Hey slackster

Are you going to answer my question?

What exactly did he promise that has not been made yet??
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43396 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:13 am to
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Exactly. Conservatives hadn't won elections in a long time.


The "conservatives" on this board were voting neo liberals in who were pro war.



The only way a republican wins is by pretending to be conservative.

They lose elections once they are exposed as neocons.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43396 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:14 am to
quote:

What exactly did he promise that has not been made yet??



Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34619 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:34 am to
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LSUFanHouston

Why the frick do you care? Youre one of the least "conservative" conservative posters on here. Even though you voted for Trump 3x, who your side claims isnt a conservative himself

Very hypocritical to claim to be a conservative, while voting for a moderate 3x, doncha think?
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3808 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:59 am to
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most American voters are too emotional and reactionary to elect a true conservative


A fiscal conservative is electable.

A hyper-religious social conservative is mostly unelectable.
This post was edited on 9/11/26 at 12:02 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42643 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 12:16 pm to
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Meat sandwich is a dumpster fire, I don’t even think he knows what he believes or supports. I suspect he justifies his votes by arguing there is no difference between the two so what does it matter. It’s the “I am above it all” position most Libertarians try to take


Makes sense he is a libertarian
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
30166 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 12:24 pm to
Epstein was a democrat hoax and you fricking know it

Tariffs are the best thing that has ever happened to our country - NICE FAIL THERE

Don't know or care about the mass shooting bullshite on your stupid meme

I guess you missed the fricking memo about the Venezuela and soon to be Iran deal

Pointless trying to argue with clueless brainwashed people

What else you got??
This post was edited on 9/11/26 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
3157 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 12:29 pm to
He's not "PURELY" Conservative, but he has aligned at times with the Conservative base of the Republican party.

People who define conservatism by outcomes (the Supreme Court, tax cuts, deregulation) consider him a highly effective conservative leader.

Those who define conservatism by systemic principles (free trade, fiscal restraint, institutional norms) view him as a right-wing populist rather than a traditional conservative.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43396 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 12:30 pm to
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Epstein was a democrat hoax and you fricking know it


No, everyone said the democrats were the clients, and then suddenly it was a hoax.

In truth, Trump blocked it to protect Israel, and you fricking know it.

quote:

Tariffs are the best thing that has ever happened to our country - NICE FAIL THERE


Tariffs are a tax, learn economics. And instead of cutting government spending, Trump increased it and the debt. While at the same time claiming a reduction in taxes, which is an economic policy of inflation.

And now he's trying to bribe people with $5k which would cause even more inflation than he left us with at the end of his first term during covid with all those checks.

Although thankfully, the $5k is just a lie and him pissing down the backs of "true believers" like you.

quote:


I guess you missed the fricking memo about the Venezuela and soon to be Iran deal



Iran Deal XXXVI?

The one that has been slow walked for over a year now with 100 declared victories and 0 real results?

The war that you and others would call a huge success if we could just get back to things before Trump fricked up?

As for Venezula, some oil companies got rich off it at best.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43396 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 12:36 pm to
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People who define conservatism by outcomes (the Supreme Court, tax cuts, deregulation) consider him a highly effective conservative leader.

Those who define conservatism by systemic principles (free trade, fiscal restraint, institutional norms) view him as a right-wing populist rather than a traditional conservative.




Both of these are based on outcomes.

The first paragraph ignores any outcomes that aren't favorable to conservative principles and the 2nd paragraph doesn't.

Also, there have been 0 tax cuts. There is no such thing as an unbalanced budget, the only thing that can change is how it's paid for. If it's not paid directly in taxes, it's paid by inflation and/or more debt which is even more expensive and still causes inflation.

Deregulation seems to have been for a select few at best. Mom and pops are still having to compete with extreme regulations developed by larger corporations to prevent competition in almost every case. I don't make a ton of fuss about that, but it would be nice if it really happened more.


This post was edited on 9/11/26 at 12:37 pm
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