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re: Holy Cow 20% of the education budget in Mississippi and Alabama comes from DOE

Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:16 pm to
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16419 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:16 pm to
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That's why I think it's asinine when people scramble to get a house in the best school districts or pay outrageous private school tuitions. How you raise your kids is vastly, vastly more important than what kind of high school they attend whether average or good school, doesn't matter. Parenting matters exponentially more to how they turn out academically and professionally successful.


I agree with you for the most part, but when you have an impressionable teenager, the environment he's surrounded by matters too. We noticed this when my son was in 7th grade. He was in a public school and started doing things that he was picking up from friends and and his surrounding environment that we felt that was counterproductive to what we were teaching him at home.

We decided to move him to a private catholic school in 8th grade and he's been doing very well ever since. Now that's he's in the 10th, we feel like he's equipped to make better decisions when he's confronted with peer pressure to make the right decisions.

Parents need to constantly talk to their kids, be involved, and ask questions. I believe a lot of parents allow their kids to be locked up in their room all day, don't engage with them at all, and are clueless as to what they're involved with.

This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 10:31 pm
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
9284 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:22 pm to
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Is this just going to be gone now?
No. They’ve made that point many times in news reports.
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
62297 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:26 pm to
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part, but when you have an impressionable teenager, the environment he's surrounded by matters too


Absolutely right….the issue is not so much who’s standing in front of the classroom as who is standing around him at recess.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
5258 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:44 pm to
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LA/MS/AL are federal welfare states


These states have something in common but I can’t put my finger on it.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150408 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:50 pm to
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LA/MS/AL are federal welfare states
you done did it now.

Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150408 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:51 pm to
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Pretty much true, everyone hates California and Washington but they basically pay for these states.
oh now you really stepped in it
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60726 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:52 pm to
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That's why I think it's asinine when people scramble to get a house in the best school districts or pay outrageous private school tuitions. How you raise your kids is vastly, vastly more important than what kind of high school they attend whether average or good school, doesn't matter
idk

Before my family moved, the high school I went to produces very few business/engineering professionals and maybe one doctor or lawyer every 10 years (not exaggerating). I’m not smart at all and would have graduated near the top of my class. This was a very rural area though.

The high school I went to sends kids to elite universities every single year. Lots of doctors and lawyers. I think being surrounded by legitimately intelligent and ambitious kids was very good for me.
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
6556 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:21 pm to
The EO doesn't cancel funding dingbat. It simply shifts authority to the states. It clearly states this in section 3 regarding provisions.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74891 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:31 pm to
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No. They’ve made that point many times in news reports.


TutHill is aware…
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3682 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:40 pm to
They just cut out the middle man’s (DOE) the money goes directly to the states…..
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39421 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:44 pm to
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69095 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:48 pm to
We were #1 in the world in education when Jimmy Carter hooked up the teachers unions with the DOE slush fund in 1978. Now we are bottom dwellers with the most money spent per student. DOE didn’t work.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:48 pm to
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The money is being given to the states directly via block grants per EO signed today


Oklahoma department of education gonna waste so much of it now with no oversite or standards. We're fighting the super woke teachers union of the redest state in America...where we don't even have enough teachers and allow tons of emergency certifications to be the norm due to obscenely low pay. But lee greenwood bibles well buy in $49,999 chunks to avoid having to bid it out.....
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19624 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:49 pm to
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A kid's success in high school and college comes down to:

95% - how the parents raise them, do they enforce hard work,


Bingo. All the money in the world does not matter if the local community is a cesspool of crime and poverty. Add to that parents who simply do not care, and it's a recipe for certain failure.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75214 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:58 pm to
It is going to be interesting. Much like with abortion, when you advocate for state's rights and state control, each state has the control over its education system. The people of those states, via their elected representatives have the say. For better or worse, Federal sway over the direction of education in a given state should be greatly limited. No mandates, no dictating decision making, and no leveraging Federal funding to influence or assert control. When you say "state's rights" you mean it. General oversight is one thing, maintaining the same Federal control we have is another.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Trust your state representatives, and vote accordingly.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:02 am to
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Pretty much true, everyone hates California and Washington but they basically pay for these states.


Every time someone repeats this liberal nonsense I know they're gullible morons.

You'll note the left NEVER wants to look under the hood of those numbers to see precisely who is driving the numbers because if they did, they'd have to shut the frick up lest they insult their most reliable voting block.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:02 am to
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TutHillTiger


You are such a gullible dumb@ss. So if you had a brain you would realize that Mississippi like every other state will likely get double the funds they get now. All that wasted bureaucracy in DC and the pay offs to teacher unions will be gone moron!
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
6852 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:24 am to
Texas is 18.3 percent while Alabama is at 17.1 from the feds
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4480 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:32 am to
These figures are very misleading ..
. California actually receives about $500 more per student from the federal government than Alabama or Mississippi... And by the way, Louisiana is closer to 20% than Alabama.
This post was edited on 3/21/25 at 12:36 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65900 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:38 am to
This is a thread about expenditures required by the federal government.
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