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re: Holy Cow 20% of the education budget in Mississippi and Alabama comes from DOE
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:41 am to mattloc
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:41 am to mattloc
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These figures are very misleading ..
. California actually receives about $500 more per student from the federal government than Alabama or Mississippi... And by the way, Louisiana is closer to 20% than Alabama.
It's a stupid measurement anyway. The feds force states to spend this money.
If someone holds a gun to your head, hands you $20, and forces you to buy a Big Mac, are you really reliant on that money?
No. The answer is no. The illusion of Alabama as a welfare state is exactly like that. If federal funding ended tomorrow, Alabama would be just fine. California would file bankruptcy.
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:47 am to TutHillTiger
quote:no.
Is this just going to be gone now
Posted on 3/21/25 at 1:09 am to TutHillTiger
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Title 1 is a real bitch, we have had to pay 65k for a special needs teacher for one damn student many times. (Or they sue you and you pay for a special needs teacher and attorneys fees)
Just think about how many more special needs teachers are needed now that autism has reached 1 in 40
Posted on 3/21/25 at 1:23 am to TutHillTiger
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TutHillTiger
jesus, you're such a weirdo. states will still get federal money. there just won't be as many middlemen with sticky fingers.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 1:44 am to TutHillTiger
Dats what Jasmine tried telling you white devils! Them broke arse southern states be stealing all the money from northern blue states.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:31 am to TutHillTiger
The DOE doesn't fund anything. They distribute the funds that congress set aside for education. All the states will still get the same funding it will just be distributed from the Treasury department.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:22 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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big city tax dollars keep rural areas alive too
And rural areas keep big city folks alive.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:31 am to Bengalbio
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Perhaps we should spend more on those in the middle where education and motivation is most impactful.
That makes zero sense.
You spend more effort and resources training less capable people because they need it, and you can allow the more capable people to be independent.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 5:03 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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LA/MS/AL are federal welfare states
If the feds would let us keep 50% of offshore royalties and not cap t at $500 million we wouldn’t be.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 5:18 am to TutHillTiger
You are not bright. The money comes from taxes and will still go to the states
Posted on 3/21/25 at 5:35 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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LA/MS/AL are federal welfare states
Pretty much. Add in West Virginia as well.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 5:48 am to Spankum
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Sales tax, property tax, car tags, etc. here we come!
The highest amount of my property taxes is for the schools. This especially irks me being we have never had any kids and we are on a fixed income now (retired).
Posted on 3/21/25 at 5:52 am to TutHillTiger
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Are they going to replace this with state grants? I am totally cool with it if that’s the situation, but seriously we can’t get much dumber in these states
Posted on 3/21/25 at 5:55 am to TutHillTiger
We'll be fine here in South Baldwin Co.
We don't need the gubments filthy laundered money.
We don't need the gubments filthy laundered money.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 5:58 am to TutHillTiger
Over 4,000 people work for the DOE. We don't need a single one of them. They haven't improved our kids test scores at all since the DOE began in 1980.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 6:01 am to kywildcatfanone
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That money would go directly to the state, where it should.
We know how well LA/MS manage money. I’m sure there won’t be any corrupt bs happening when you make that change and “let the states handle it.”
The standardized test scores will become even worse and we will end up with more people jobless and on more welfare because of it.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 6:02 am to TutHillTiger
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Mississippi is getting rid of income tax this year. (And good riddance, nothing is more corrupt the Mississippi Department of Revenue)
If you own a home you might not like this in 5 years. Politicians a greedy and will get their money from somewhere.........property taxes are likely gonna rocket to the moon.
Consumption tax should be the way.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 6:03 am to TutHillTiger
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Is this just going to be gone now?
Yes. Your idiots will now be dumber.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 6:11 am to TutHillTiger
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Pretty much true, everyone hates California and Washington but they basically pay for these states.
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Fed:State Pay Balance
FY 2021–2024
States with a ratio below 1.0 contribute more in taxes than they receive in federal funds, while those above 1.0 receive more than they contribute.
New Jersey - ~0.60
Pays significantly more in taxes than it receives, often due to high income levels and fewer federal installations.
Connecticut - ~0.65
High tax contributions from wealthy residents, with relatively low federal funding returns.
Massachusetts - ~0.80
Strong economy and high tax base, but less reliance on federal aid.
New York - ~0.90
Historically a net contributor, though pandemic-era aid nudged it closer to balance (~1.06 in 2022).
Illinois - ~0.95
High tax contributions from urban areas like Chicago, with moderate federal returns.
California - ~1.00
Nearly balanced, with massive tax contributions offset by significant federal spending.
Minnesota - ~1.05
Slightly above balance, with strong tax contributions but modest federal aid.
Colorado - ~1.10
Moderate tax base with some federal spending on military and infrastructure.
Texas - ~1.15
Large economy contributes heavily, but federal funds for defense and disaster relief increase returns.
Washington - ~1.20
High tax contributions, boosted by tech wealth, with some federal contracts.
Nevada - ~1.25
Lower tax base, with federal funds for tourism-related infrastructure.
Utah - ~1.30
Growing economy, but federal land payments and grants elevate returns.
Wisconsin - ~1.35
Balanced economy with moderate federal aid reliance.
Georgia - ~1.40
Increasing federal funds for military and disaster relief.
Florida - ~1.45
Large population, with federal aid for hurricanes and retiree programs.
North Carolina - ~1.50
Growing federal spending on military bases and disaster recovery.
Pennsylvania - ~1.55
Moderate tax contributions, with federal funds for health and infrastructure.
Ohio - ~1.60
Industrial base with significant federal health and welfare funding.
Michigan - ~1.65
Federal aid supports manufacturing and urban areas.
Arizona - ~1.70
Federal funds for border security and Native American programs.
Indiana - ~1.75
Moderate tax base, with federal aid for rural and health programs.
Oregon - ~1.80
Federal funds for environmental and infrastructure projects.
Virginia - ~1.85
High federal spending due to proximity to D.C. and military bases.
Maryland - ~1.90
Significant federal jobs and contracts near Washington, D.C.
Tennessee - ~1.95
Federal aid for health and rural development.
Missouri - ~2.00
Balanced tax base with federal funds for agriculture and military.
Iowa - ~2.05
Agricultural subsidies and rural aid boost federal returns.
Kansas - ~2.10
Federal funds for agriculture and military bases.
Nebraska - ~2.15
Similar to Kansas, with agribusiness support.
South Dakota - ~2.20
Low tax base, high federal aid for Native American programs and agriculture.
North Dakota - ~2.25
Small population, significant federal energy and ag funding.
Idaho - ~2.30
Federal land payments and rural aid increase returns.
New Hampshire - ~2.35
Low tax contributions, with some federal aid reliance.
Oklahoma - ~2.40
Federal funds for energy, military, and Native American programs.
Arkansas - ~2.45
High federal aid for poverty and rural areas.
Rhode Island - ~2.50
Small state with significant per-capita federal funding.
Louisiana - ~2.55
Disaster relief and energy-related federal funds.
Alabama - ~2.60
Military bases and poverty-related aid elevate returns.
South Carolina - ~2.65
Federal spending on military and disaster relief.
Montana - ~2.70
Low population, high federal land and rural aid.
West Virginia - ~2.75
High poverty levels drive federal welfare funding.
Maine - ~2.80
Rural aid and health programs increase returns.
Hawaii - ~2.85
Military presence and tourism-related federal funds.
Vermont - ~2.90
Small population with significant federal health and rural aid.
Wyoming - ~3.00
Tiny population, large federal land and energy payments.
Mississippi - ~3.10
High poverty and federal health/welfare funding.
Alaska - ~3.20
Massive per-capita federal funds for military and Native programs.
Kentucky - ~3.30
High federal aid for health, poverty, and rural areas.
New Mexico - ~3.50
Federal funds for military, energy, and Native American programs.
Delaware - ~3.60
Small population with outsized federal funding per capita.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 6:12 am to Saunson69
Saunson,
I live in the Caribbean, and here in Trinidad we have some really bad schools, some private schools, and some good public schools. One of them Bishop Ainsley, is public and puts out some of the best scholarship kids every year.
You visit the school, the kids are polite, they all say good morning if an adult passes them in the hallway, the trophy case is filled with academic awards.
I was talking to the principal and marveled at their success and she just laughed, she said its not me its THE PARENTS. She said "you see that stupidness that goes on in other schools? If I had one kid disrupting here and did not address it, I would have a parking lot full of parents demanding I fix it...or they will".
Our parents/teachers meeting are a fete (party). They all bring food, we have a discussion about whats working whats not. Try some stuff that works some that doesnt, but one thing is certain, we all have the kids best interest in the forefront.
Just really refreshing to see, really refreshing. Its not the money, its not the politics, its keeping your eye on the prize.
I live in the Caribbean, and here in Trinidad we have some really bad schools, some private schools, and some good public schools. One of them Bishop Ainsley, is public and puts out some of the best scholarship kids every year.
You visit the school, the kids are polite, they all say good morning if an adult passes them in the hallway, the trophy case is filled with academic awards.
I was talking to the principal and marveled at their success and she just laughed, she said its not me its THE PARENTS. She said "you see that stupidness that goes on in other schools? If I had one kid disrupting here and did not address it, I would have a parking lot full of parents demanding I fix it...or they will".
Our parents/teachers meeting are a fete (party). They all bring food, we have a discussion about whats working whats not. Try some stuff that works some that doesnt, but one thing is certain, we all have the kids best interest in the forefront.
Just really refreshing to see, really refreshing. Its not the money, its not the politics, its keeping your eye on the prize.
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