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re: Heh. Left wing libtards are gonna chat thier pink panties when they wake up to this....

Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:33 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:33 am to
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They can also leave the gang.


Fair point. Maybe he was only at a time in the (very recent) past a member of one of the most heinous gang in the world.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:33 am to
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He could, but at what cost?

I imagine 0 to negligible.

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Why spend even a single penny moving this illegal gang member back to the states just so he can be deported again?

Following the law.

Not doing so has a much larger cost.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:34 am to
You might communicate effectively with a judge or panel of judges, especially ones who themselves are arrogant and self-important, but a jury of laypeople? Not a chance. The last thing they want to be spending a few days with is an attorney who likes nothing more than to hear himself talk and “boast” with overly technical and too voluminous terminology.

That didn’t come across rudely, did it? I’m just trying to speak your language. I’m mostly joking though, obviously as you’re aware we’re encased in a little thicker skin than most, amirite?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:34 am to
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but there are rare occasions where someone has to be shown


I legit chortled. Your wife is either an absolute pickax or the saint to end all saints.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:34 am to
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Fair point. Maybe he was only at a time in the (very recent) past a member of one of the most heinous gang in the world.


This changes everything. If he can't come back to America and reside here illegally again I'm not sure this country will ever be the same.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:34 am to
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Maybe he was only at a time in the (very recent) past a member of one of the most heinous gang in the world.

As I said, I don't think much, if any, legit evidence one way or the other has been presented on this point.

His family clearly claims he's not, but I am not giving that legitimacy at this time, for obvious reasons.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:34 am to
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So he can't leave after getting the tattoo?



"Im not defending an Ms13 gang member" - sfp


Holy shite
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28172 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:35 am to
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Following the law.

Not doing so has a much larger cost.



The irony is that you can't recognize the cost of judicial activism, even while you bemoan the consequences of judicial activism.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28144 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:35 am to
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Following the law.


Was he ordered to negotiate or facilitate?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:35 am to
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If he can't come back to America and reside here illegally again I'm not sure this country will ever be the same.


Think of the bureaucracy!!! What would our country be without its bureaucracy, goddammit.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:40 am to
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(Note: I won and the opinion is published)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:40 am to
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You might communicate effectively with a judge or panel of judges, especially ones who themselves are arrogant and self-important, but a jury of laypeople? Not a chance.

Again, last jury trial I lost the battle and won the war. Jury came with a conviction for simple battery and not second degree battery. The judge was so pissed that prior to the sentencing date I told my client he may be serving 6 months in jail (which he was fine with as long as he didn't have a felony on his record).

My client base is almost exclusively baws or bawettes.

I'm from a working class background (my dad was a carpenter and my mom was one of the first people on either side to graduate college) and it plays in my blue collar city. The thing is, with your typical baw, they're not in the "challenge SFP because they doubt my intelligence" demo.

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The last thing they want to be spending a few days with is an attorney who likes nothing more than to hear himself talk and “boast” with overly technical and too voluminous terminology.

Funny enough, the thing I did to really win the jury over was not take up my full time in closing because I promised them we'd get the trial done in a day and I took about 5 minutes to summarize all the differences in testimonies and how the testimonies were all worthless individually which created many reasonable options that the prosecution didn't prove. When the ADA took his full remaining time after me, it was not an optimal strategy.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
13525 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:41 am to
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I work with lots of former gang members

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:42 am to
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I legit chortled. Your wife is either an absolute pickax or the saint to end all saints.


Why? She's intelligent and educated and never had doubts about that
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:42 am to
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"Im not defending an Ms13 gang member" - sfp


Holy shite

You're clearly not following that digression
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:43 am to
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Why did the administration say he was mistakenly reported?


It's a total language manipulation.

It's like if someone is arrested for murder, but perhaps some procedure is not followed correctly.

Would you say they were "mistakenly" arrested for murder? No, that sounds like an innocent person was picked up off the street.

Just like "mistakenly deported" makes it sound like some rando was picked up at his kids soccer game and sent to El Salvador.

He is a guy that needed deporting and they wanted to deport him, the apparent "mistake" was of the administrative variety.

We can debate that issue, but saying he was "mistakenly deported" is a complete bastardization of language.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:43 am to
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11379 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:44 am to
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This. There's no dispute about this. The Administration could have moved to dissolve the withholding order. No doubt the immigration judge would have granted their motion, and Abrego Garcia could have been legally deported to El Salvador as he should have been in 2019 during the first Trump Administration.


So, what you're really pissed about is... incorrect paperwork.

You admit that the results would have been the same, so you've been bleeding for days over fricking paperwork.

Do you realize how insane that is? Bringing a gangbanger back just so you can deport him "the right way" is retarded. It's pointless, a waste money, and the only purpose would be to make soft people like you feel better. I don't care about your feelings, only results. And the results are exactly what they should have been.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:46 am to
One thing you learn after years in Gifted is highly intelligent people display the "real recognize real" axiom naturally among each other.

It's the people who are above average in intelligence and who think they're smarter than they are who are the ones who project. Your 110-120 type.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:47 am to
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And the results are exactly what they should have been.


This doesn’t make sense to lawyers. You might as well have been speaking Gibbonese.
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