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re: Ford CEO, “We’re not paying people $300,000 to work four days a week.”

Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:22 pm to
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They make about 200 per hour now
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:25 pm to

Posted by Tarps99
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:26 pm to
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Riverboat captains?


It is Mississippi River Pilots.

They make mid six figures and you have to be selected and meet certain certification requirements, but almost all selected are family members. It is a sweet government gig if they let you in, but they would probably take someone’s nephew that is 25 years old over an old fart that 50 years old and know the river backwards and forwards but has no connection to someone in the River Pilot’s Association.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:28 pm to
I really wouldn't blame the auto companies for closing up shop and just moving everything to Mexico. Dealing with these unions just isn't worth it.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:29 pm to
For what they're making, most of us would dump our white collar jobs and "scab".

Union leadership is just greedy. They have a lot of rich payrolls to meet.
Posted by UGA fan n NC
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:39 pm to
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I hope they fire them all

Agreed. They need to receive the same treatment that Reagan gave the Air Traffic Controllers when they went on strike in '81. Each one needs their a$$ kick to the curb ... Reagan did it and didn't bat an eye doing so.
Posted by JimNat
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:42 pm to
River pilots

Trip pilots shoving large tows downstream ( 35-40 loads ) are getting 1400 to 1600 a day. Good money
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:42 pm to
Much like phones, why do we need new models every year? And then, if we’re concerned about the planet, where are all of these vehicles and phones, and tech going when they’re no longer of use?
Posted by PQuin
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:50 pm to
Below is from Fox2 Detroit Article

quote:

What is the UAW asking for?

The UAW is seeking a new deal for the first time since 2019 and is asking for a 46% wage increase, a 32-hour workweek, and more for members.

Eliminate tiered wage system

UAW employees earn about $28/hour. Those hired after 2007 are in the second tier – and earn about $16 to $19 per hour. This would follow a precedent set by UPS, which tiers among drivers earlier this year. Wage increases The UAW wants double-digit pay raises for its members. The UAW cites the 40% raise for CEOs over the past four years and said members are worth the same and more.

Restore Cost-of-Living Adjustment (COLA)

Cost of Living Adjustments (COLA) was ended in 2009 as a result of the recession and bankruptcies by Chrysler (now Stellantis) and General Motors. COLA was first implemented in the 1970s when inflation was growing and the UAW wants it back.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:56 pm to
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Good thought, but I think that is illegal in Mich


I guaranteed myself this was the case but then I remembered there was no law requiring cars be made in Michigan. Funny that
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:56 pm to
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He’s probably talking about fully loaded cost. Salary+bonus+benefits+etc


Last I heard new hires make like mid $20 hourly wage, no pension and reduced benefits when compared to workers with +20 years service, they want a similar contract that autoworkers had prior to the 2008/2008 Financial Meltdown and the government bailouts. Most automobile models have nearly doubled in price since 2008 but autoworkers took a pay and benefit haircut. Meanwhile fast food workers, warehouse workers, airline workers, etc. have received +20-30% pay increases in the midst of 20% inflation.

I understand why the autoworkers want to get paid now. The federal government is going to be racking up a $2 trillion deficit each year in perpetuity….the USD is going to be heading towards Weimar level debasement.
Posted by Jasharts77
Knoxville
Member since Nov 2019
1106 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:57 pm to
We got a simple solution here. Replace them with machines or the 12 million new citizens. How hard can assembling a car really be ?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:41 pm to
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I really wouldn't blame the auto companies for closing up shop and just moving everything to Mexico. Dealing with these unions just isn't worth it
Agree. They're pricing themselves out of the market. It's complete nonsense.

And people say protectionism won't be inflationary
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:42 pm to
Fat fingered , 100 per hour
Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:51 pm to
I'd rather Fotd workers get the money than Ford keep subsidizing the superwoke Ford Foundation
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61407 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:25 pm to
Ford Motor revenue for the twelve months ending June 30, 2023 was $169.819B, a 14.72% increase year-over-year.

Why not reward the people who built the cars?
Posted by Iron Lion
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:27 pm to
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I hope they fire them all
I told my wife the same thing. I hope every one of them get fired.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37562 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:45 pm to
Funny how management likes to forget the sacrifice that they asked the workers to take once the the profits start to build up

Then they can't afford anything.
Posted by TDTOM
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25893 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:47 pm to
Because they have to keep sinking money into the stupid EV business.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:51 pm to
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The UAW cites the 40% raise for CEOs over the past four years and said members are worth the same and more.

Sounds like they're just asking for comparable increase to CEO increase.
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