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re: Fitting that John Roberts puts a bullet into the head of the USA on its 250th birthday
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:16 am to ClientNumber9
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:16 am to ClientNumber9
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Amendment. Pass an amendment.
How does that get done when all of the democrat and half of the republicans are for open boarders?
Elect better people?
Surely you must see now that they doesn't work.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 12:38 pm
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:17 am to ClientNumber9
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Amendment. Pass an amendment.
Secession. I'm like the 10th amendment.
The federal government no longer acts as an agent of the States,but rather an entity ruling over them and against the will of the people in those States
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:18 am to udtiger
Guess redefining the size of the SCOTUS is now unnecessary......just sayin as I stroll thru the cemetery
Meant what they said a few years ago:
No Standing nor did the gutless Judiciary step in when basic civil rights were tossed during C19....none should be surprised
Meant what they said a few years ago:
No Standing nor did the gutless Judiciary step in when basic civil rights were tossed during C19....none should be surprised
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 10:20 am
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:19 am to udtiger
Now is the time for the American Left to take advantage of this SCOTUS ruling and lay the groundwork for a massive "Baby Invasion" of the USA from poor people across the globe who will come here and vote Socialist or Communist.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:23 am to madmaxvol
The SCOTUS could read the Congressional Record to discern the likely Legislative Intent when the Amendment was drafted. That bit of legal research would have revealed that the legislative intent was not likely to have meant Birthright Citizenship.
But, by virtue of this Ruling, it is true that the USA does not have total control over who will be a US Citizen, which means that the USA is not a totally sovereign nation-state.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:28 am to Champagne
I love coming here for my legal analysis fix haha
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:29 am to Champagne
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The SCOTUS could read the Congressional Record to discern the likely Legislative Intent when the Amendment was drafted.
So now the right wants to go into intent of the constitution? I don't think you would like that with other amendments. It is amazing that any justice could read the amendment and be on the dissent side of this. A 5 year old could read it and tell you what it means. Doesn't mean I agree with it, but the government can change it with another amendment, that's the only way
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:33 am to prplhze2000
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Take it up with the language of the amendment.
Naw, fam.
I’ll take it up with the dumbfrickery of Wong Kim Ark.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:34 am to Tigers0918
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A 5 year old could read it and tell you what it means.
Here’s a fella who doesn’t know how language works.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:34 am to udtiger
Save america Act.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:35 am to Tigers0918
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but the government can change it with another amendment, that's the only way
The ideology of half the country is too far gone for this....so what now?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:36 am to DeathValley85
We have to commit suicide as a country to maintain our judicial theories.
Obviously.
Obviously.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:36 am to No Colors
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Angry people who are basic failures at life are always searching for someone or something to blame it on. The government. The secret cabal. The Jews. Big Corporations. Whatever. The people I know who are success have been successful no matter who was in the White House or which party controlled congress. And in general they're optimists when it comes to the future of America. These guys who say "it's over" or "America is circling the drain"... what they mean is that they are the ones circling the drain.
Preach.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:37 am to No Colors
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These guys who say "it's over" or "America is circling the drain"... what they mean is that they are the ones circling the drain.
Do you think America is ascendant now?
Serious question. I doubt you’ll answer because none of that discussion fits your dumbass rhetoric.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:38 am to Pettifogger
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I'd love to hear what you mean about "optimists when it comes to the future of America" - More isolation of young people who can't find meaningful relationships or work or own homes? - More SSRIs for women? - Even lower birth rates? - Fewer community connections? - Declining ability to even fathom one working parent households? - Less industrialization? - More ethnic enclaves? Oh, you mean GDP. Got it.
Not trying to put words in his life, but I’m guessing he means that he will be successful, his family will have a great quality of life and future, and that will all happen while living in this America that is apparently burning to the ground.
And I’m with him
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:40 am to Pettifogger
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Because it's the only basis by which a successful person would have optimism for the future of America
Have you not learned from all these foreigners coming over to the US for the World Cup? Grass is always greener…..
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:41 am to WeeWee
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So a ruling that confirms the status quo of something we have been doing for the past 160 years or so is the bullet in the head of the USA? Give me a break.
The freak out over this is crazy. Did the USSR not know about this during the Cold War? Did the CCP just learn about this a year ago? How many Mexicans have formed militia groups to overtake the US? Arab nations have committed terrorist attacks, but most of them were adults/teenagers when they came over, not children born to immigrants.
Should BRC be reconsidered given the changes in the world since the 1860's, probably, but this imminent doom fear porn is retarded.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:41 am to Tigers0918
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The SCOTUS could read the Congressional Record to discern the likely Legislative Intent when the Amendment was drafted.
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So now the right wants to go into intent of the constitution? I don't think you would like that with other amendments. It is amazing that any justice could read the amendment and be on the dissent side of this. A 5 year old could read it and tell you what it means. Doesn't mean I agree with it, but the government can change it with another amendment, that's the only way
Amendment revision is not unprecedented.
In 1913, Section 9 of Article 1 of the 16th Amendment was modified to grant Congressional power to collect income taxes without apportioning them to the states.
That same year, Section 3 of Article 1 of the 17th Amendment was modified to require US Senators be elected by constituents, rather than be appointed by state legislature.
If the wording were changed to say something like, ""All persons present under legal immigration provisions, born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Or...something like that. Stating that if they are here under legal provisions and are born on US Soil, then they become US Citizens.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:45 am to onmymedicalgrind
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his family will have a great quality of life and future, and that will all happen while living in this America that is apparently burning to the ground.
I mean that’s actually kind of accurate.
My physician daughter and engineer son in law will carve out a nice life for themselves. They have multiple rental properties and are already in the top 5% of earners in their twenties.
They will almost assuredly have their kids in private school. Because public schools here are burning to the ground. They’ve moved out of St. Louis city because it’s burning to the ground. They’ll pay 40% of their earnings in taxes because the rapacious government can never get enough. And governmental debt will continue to explode.
What do you think is going really well in the country?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:46 am to prplhze2000
quote:I'd take it up with the SCOTUS reinterpretation of the language three decades after it was written, despite obvious congressional intent.
Take it up with the language of the amendment
This court had an opportunity to correct the error. Instead, it chose to perpetuate it. Not insignificant in reviewing today's ruling is the fact that both Roberts and ACB are adoptive parents of foreign children.
My expectation was that the court would come down along the Kavanaugh lines. But it went further, indicating that even with congressional clarification of the term "jurisdiction," the current law would remain sans a new amendment. Considering the national hazard entailed in birth tourism, today's ruling is actually quite damaging. It clearly takes into account neither the intent of the 14th amendment as it was written, nor that of the founding fathers.
By this court's interpretation, a Chinese national born to a birth tourist, then returning to China to be indoctrinated in communism, is qualified to be president of the United States, whereas Elon Musk is not. There is no rational context, justifying that idiocy.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 10:48 am
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