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Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:06 am to Gotabyte
This is the most conservative court in decades. You’d know that if you had any inkling of constitutional law.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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You mean my great grandparents that would be considered illegal aliens today and were not considered white when they got here? Or the other set who didn't even live in America for a day of their lives?
Why would I care about this?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:07 am to Pettifogger
The sky isn’t falling my friend.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:07 am to Pettifogger
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Place? Community? Common culture? Faith?
File this all under “the foundations and principles I’ve instilled upon them.”
Kind of sounds like you want the government and others to do more for your kids. That’s a you problem.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:08 am to SlowFlowPro
That makes sense.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:08 am to Pettifogger
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Why would I care about this?
You are repeating the claims made against them
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:09 am to NC_Tigah
C.S. Lewis, in God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (1970), wrote that “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies”
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:09 am to the808bass
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That makes sense.
Yes appealing to the system built by the people who had the exact same criticisms levied against them at the time of their immigration makes a lot of sense.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:09 am to the808bass
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Do you think America is ascendant now?
Absolutely
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Serious question. I doubt you’ll answer because none of that discussion fits your dumbass rhetoric.
Yet another thing you're wrong about.
Serious question: Do you know many successful, happy people?
Are they generally positive and optimistic? Or angry and pessimistic?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:10 am to Decatur
Depends on what you mean. In the sense of a cohesive America as a cultural inheritance? It fell a long time ago.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:11 am to the808bass
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Sure. But you’re more of a materialist, if I had to guess. I don’t mean that you’re materialistic. I mean that you’re a pragmatic guy who is a bit agnostic about anything past the physical.
If by this you mean I focus on what is within the control of myself and my family, and I acknowledge that will always have 100x the effect on our lives than the abstract “sky is falling” nonsense petti is crying over….then your characterization is rather accurate.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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You are repeating the claims made against them
Were they wrong? I don't understand your argument. I feel like it's based on a premise I haven't accepted.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:14 am to onmymedicalgrind
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If by this you mean I focus on what is within the control of myself and my family, and I acknowledge that will always have 100x the effect on our lives than the abstract “sky is falling” nonsense petti is crying over….then your characterization is rather accurate.
"nonsense" - the institutions that will enable OMMG's kids to have a lucrative life
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:14 am to Pettifogger
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Were they wrong?
If those similar claims were right, why would you have me appeal to them?
Your premise only works if the original claims were wrong, and the over-dramatizing of cultural differences didn't end up in the doomsday scenario they projected.
Then this leads to putting that same framework on those allegations being made today.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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If those similar claims were right, why would you have me appeal to them?
I genuinely don't know what you're trying to convey here.
I'm guessing it's you trying to map your European ancestors assimilating and building onto modern Somalians and Nigerians and Haitians and Indians or something similar, but you haven't really articulated what you think I should be appreciating about it.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:17 am to udtiger
I would have been shocked had the court ruled otherwise.
The problem is that the 14 Amendment is vaguely worded. The only way to change this is with a constitutional amendment.
The problem is that the 14 Amendment is vaguely worded. The only way to change this is with a constitutional amendment.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:19 am to onmymedicalgrind
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If by this you mean I focus on what is within the control of myself and my family, and I acknowledge that will always have 100x the effect on our lives than the abstract “sky is falling” nonsense petti is crying over….then your characterization is rather accurate.
I guess I’m back at my original proposition, malheureusment.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:21 am to No Colors
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Serious question: Do you know many successful, happy people? Are they generally positive and optimistic? Or angry and pessimistic?
I do.
A lot of them are actually angry and pessimistic.
I’m not arguing for anger or pessimism, btw. But that was a dumb side route to take for your argument.
What data points would you point to in arguing for American ascendancy?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:23 am to 50_Tiger
Only 62% of states are red states
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