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re: Fitting that John Roberts puts a bullet into the head of the USA on its 250th birthday

Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:54 am to
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:54 am to
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Oh, you mean GDP. Got it.

Where did you get that?
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:54 am to
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It's not the purpose of SCOTUS to affirm the merits of laws and the constitution. That would be the very definition of "legislating from the bench".



Personally as my kids inherit some unity-less sewer of cultures and cultural rot, I'll feel satisfied knowing the R-leans on the Supreme Court took the high road.
Posted by Mizzou68
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:55 am to
Guess we’ll just have to keep the borders closed, severely limit immigration, and pass the SAVE Act. I don’t hold much hope for the latter with the gutless Republican RINOS.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:55 am to
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Where did you get that?


Because it's the only basis by which a successful person would have optimism for the future of America. Where else is it coming from?
Posted by grizzlylongcut
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:56 am to
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So a ruling that confirms the status quo of something we have been doing for the past 160 years or so is the bullet in the head of the USA? Give me a break.


It was a bullet to the head then, and it’s even moreso now.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:57 am to
Look at the school yard of any elementary school in Texas or California (two states I’ve lived in for a considerable amount of time) and you would think we live in Latin America.

The US will become Brazil demographically. And with that collapse.
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:57 am to
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So ACB didn’t want to legislate from the bench yesterday, but Roberts constitutionalized birthright citizenship?

He’s a vindictive little bitch. Especially doing it this week OF ALL WEEKS!!


Dude the literal text of the 14th amendment states

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.


All SCOTUS did was enforce the ruling. If SCOTUS started ignoring the direct text of the Constitution then it would not be long before the second amendment was done away with because of the placing of a comma.
Posted by RFK
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:59 am to
Unclear to me that the child of an undocumented immigrant is “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States.

I think SCOTUS made an interesting leap here, but I will support it. If our lawmakers want to change birthright citizenship they should do it with an amendment.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:00 am to
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it's the only basis by which a successful person would have optimism for the future of America

No. The fact that we lead in innovation, finance, technology, medical research, automation, etc. The fact that we have the most vibrant artists and writers. The fact that our environment is clean and wildlife populations are thriving. The fact that we are the most food, fiber, energy, and resources secure country on earth.

The fact that my kids are healthy and thriving and doing great with incredible opportunities in front of them.

So much to be hopeful and thankful for. I could go on for hours about the future of America
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:01 am to
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All SCOTUS did was enforce the ruling. If SCOTUS started ignoring the direct text of the Constitution then it would not be long before the second amendment was done away with because of the placing of a comma.



If overnight the left took a majority on the court, Heller would be hollowed out in 2-3 years.


Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:02 am to
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Amendment. Pass an amendment.
Youre asking Mike Johnson to get off his arse and do some work.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:04 am to
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No. The fact that we lead in innovation, finance, technology, medical research, automation, etc. The fact that we have the most vibrant artists and writers. The fact that our environment is clean and wildlife populations are thriving. The fact that we are the most food, fiber, energy, and resources secure country on earth.



Innovation - GDP. Finance. GDP. Tech - GDP. Automation - GDP.

How did we get those things? Who built them? Why? What's left of that?

We're all going to rally together in times of crisis because of our pride in food supply?

Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:05 am to
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Amendment. Pass an amendment.
Youre asking Mike Johnson to get off his arse and do some work.


A constitutional amendment has to pass with 2/3rds majority in both houses of Congress. There is no way in hell that a democrat is voting Yea on an amendment doing away with birthright citizenship. So it is pointless to argue it one way or another.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:06 am to
Section 1 of the 14th Amendment states "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

The SCOTUS' hands were tied with the language in Section 1, which was based on the 1898 Supreme Court case United States v. Wong Kim Ark. The Amendment needs Congressional work to be reworded, and the states need to pass it. Then there is no choice but to enforce the proper approach.

Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:11 am to
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All SCOTUS did was enforce the ruling. If SCOTUS started ignoring the direct text of the Constitution then it would not be long before the second amendment was done away with because of the placing of a comma.


If overnight the left took a majority on the court, Heller would be hollowed out in 2-3 years.




That is happening with out without today's decision.
Posted by Tridentds
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:14 am to
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So a ruling that confirms the status quo of something we have been doing for the past 160 years or so is the bullet in the head of the USA? Give me a break.


The organization and financial support by Democrats and Liberals for illegal immigration has gone off the deep end over the last 8-10 years. Well funded with lots of financial support, legal support in the form of legal representation for illegals, and 2 past presidents refusing to enforce border law.

No offense but you think the last 160 years is somehow all the same and the current immigration is "status quo"?? You sound like a partially functioning fricking idiot.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:15 am to
Everyone that believed a “conservative” majority on the court kept the Republic safe has been wrong for years. Roberts proved that the Dems didn’t need to pack the court with his Obama care ruling
Posted by damnstrongfan
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:15 am to
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Amendment. Pass an amendment.


Impossible. It takes 3/4 of the states legislatures to approve it. That will NEVER happen. Too many of them hate this country.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:16 am to
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That is happening with out without today's decision.



Look, in a vacuum I agree with you.

But ultimately we're just going to be feeling super noble as we pass along culture less void to our children.
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