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Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:24 pm to PeleofAnalytics
Your key word is “required”, if you are treating them as independent contractors, you deserve what is coming…
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:25 pm to Kjnstkmn
In before “ButThisWillCauseThePriceOfBreadToGoUpAndTrumpWasSupposedToFixInflationREEEEEE!…”
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:32 pm to Kjnstkmn
This should’ve happened 30 years ago and we wouldn’t have an illegal immigration problem
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:33 pm to Kjnstkmn
How f*cking long has this board been saying THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE F*CKING DONE.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:35 pm to Kjnstkmn
How do you report? Asking for a friend
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:36 pm to Kjnstkmn
Would be interested in seeing all of the facts to this case. They accused them of harboring, which is 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) which says:
This seems more akin to them operating a stash house out of their bakery and not just employing people without work authorization.
Reasons the facts will be interesting is to see what they are considering to be harboring. Depending on how loosely they are using the term you could in theory be charged for renting a rental property out to someone who is illegal.
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(iii)knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;
This seems more akin to them operating a stash house out of their bakery and not just employing people without work authorization.
Reasons the facts will be interesting is to see what they are considering to be harboring. Depending on how loosely they are using the term you could in theory be charged for renting a rental property out to someone who is illegal.
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:36 pm to Hmerly
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This will be fine for large companies as they can afford the money and time to go through the twenty steps for e verify, etc. it’s the small businesses that’ll be screwed
We have a small company in Alabama. We use e-verify. It costs nothing.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:42 pm to ItTakesAThief
Deport them all! Send their anchor babies with 'em.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:42 pm to conservativewifeymom
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But how would an employer deal with being presented false documentation when someone applies for employment?
According to the complaint in the OP, the owners of the bakery knew they were illegal. They have witness statements from the illegals saying that the owners knew they were illegal and protected them on their property.
It doesn't look like they are going after employers that fell for false documents.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:42 pm to Kjnstkmn
Burn it all down 
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:43 pm to Duffnshank
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How do you report? Asking for a friend
ICE
Top right corner
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:45 pm to dgnx6
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if you go to jail it won't be because an employee forged paperwork without your knowledge
Truthfully, that was first wave migration stuff. They’ve gotten a lot slicker now.
My point is that, to my knowledge, there isn’t a law that clearly defines if an employer does e-verify, background checks, or whatever else that they are exempt from possible prosecution. It’s simply against the law to employ illegal immigrants whether a company does their due diligence or not.
And those that say it couldnt or wouldn’t happen, have never been on the receiving
End of an OSHA /EPA/IRS audit.
But if we are serious about prosecuting people why not prosecute end users of illegal imigration? Homeowners that use a roofing contractor w/ an illegal should go to prison as well
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:46 pm to Kjnstkmn
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BREAKING: ICE conducted a worksite raid at a bakery in Texas.
That’s going to cost them a lot of bread.
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:53 pm to Kjnstkmn
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The owners were charged with 8 USC 1324. This is the same statute Tom Homan has referenced multiple times.
Deport the owners to GITMO. THey can play Skip-Bo with Adam Schiff and Diddy.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:53 pm to Ten Bears
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We are I-9 compliant, do E-Verify, 4 level background checks, TWIC, and other background checks and they STILL get through.
If they can beat all of this, how does ICE know they are illegal so easily?
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:56 pm to TigerAxeOK
The owners were born in Mexico as expected. Not sure what the acronyms with their names mean.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:56 pm to Duffnshank
Wouldn't it be awesome to have a tipline that's 1-800-CALL-TOM (Homan)?
Posted on 2/21/25 at 4:07 pm to conservativewifeymom
How about hire Americans & you'll have zero issues. Novel concept, I know.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 5:41 pm to The Maj
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Your key word is “required”, if you are treating them as independent contractors, you deserve what is coming…
What does that even mean? My point was they deserves something for going the way of independent contactor but nothing is coming? There aren't any teeth out there to bite a private sector business for using contractors that are illegal that you really should be giving a 1099 to. The IRS sorta tried with the new 1099 rules that penalize you for not filing or doing backup withholding but what statutes are out there that will penalize a business for using illegals as an independent contractors? That is why so many businesses don't even think about making them W-2 employees. There may be some local or state laws related to your licenses or insurance but the repercussions for using an independent contractor that is an illegal are negligent.
My point is they need to use the W-9 process to require these verification services. Don't give businesses such an easy and painless out.
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