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re: Congressional Black Caucus pushes for reparations commission ... a vote is coming

Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:11 pm to
Call me when it gets through Congress and the Prez signs.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6819 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:12 pm to
This could be the match that lights the Powderkeg on this one.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17768 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:13 pm to
Whitey (I'm white) needs to get smart about this or it's going to be like COVID, the riots, BLM/Antifa - after being bent over by liberal fascists on reparations, conservatives will be anonymously posting on message boards about how tough they are and all the ammo they have stored.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6438 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:14 pm to
Please put this in the 2020 platform Democrats. I think it should be a prominent issue in the debates for Biden to present to the nation at large.
Posted by teebro
laf
Member since Jul 2009
681 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:15 pm to
Trump already had extra respirators made, there is no shortage. The CBC BLM can take as many as they need.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33299 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:15 pm to
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How is it possible that Japanesse Americans were able to recover post WWII?
That's a weird non-sequitur. Reparations were paid to Japanese. Period. By a cross-section of taxpayers that wasn't equal to the taxpayers that were around when they were interned. Period.

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Liberals/Leftists believe that all banks didn't want to profit off the backs of black people because they were super racist. Does that make sense to you? Is it possible african americans were and remain less credit worthy therefore banks don't want to risk loss of principal on house notes? No way couldn't be, banks hate making money almost as much as they love discrimination right?
That's a lot of cool talking points. The reality of the mid-century housing market is that blacks of equal (or better) creditworthiness were not granted access to federally-back/insured mortgages...due explicitly to federal redlining policies. That is to say - even if banks WANTED to lend, they couldn't.

There were some heroes, though. You should read the biography of Dempsey Travis.

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banks hate making money almost as much as they love discrimination right?
construct is to remember that - into the 1970s - major sports programs did not allow blacks on their teams. That is to say, in basketball (BASKETBALL) and football, it seems clear that people were willing to cut off their nose to spite their face.

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I've looked into the effects it appears post Jim Crow homeownership rates started to fall. Can you explain?
I'm not exactly sure what you're attempting to show with your chart. Please be more specific.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111495 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:16 pm to
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since US money is worth nothing anymore, i'd be willing to support Congress putting together $2-3T if it means the whole racism thing dies with it


Also, reparations could be in place of social services. Like winning Powerball. Do you want a one-time payment? Or monthly?
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3199 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:17 pm to
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We pay reparations under the compromise that we at the same time end welfare.




And ANY and ALL previous welfare benefits (regardless of type) are deducted from the reparation payment.
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18360 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:18 pm to
And a few generations down the road they too will ask for reparations.

Never ends
Posted by ValleyofDeath
Member since Apr 2012
222 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:19 pm to
I want my white privilege check from my ancestors profits from slavery then
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56238 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:21 pm to
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Alright frick it, we just need to keep fricking and fricking and fricking until we are all the same color

Right, because people of the same race never hurt each other.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
25989 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:26 pm to
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What proportion of the labor force that pays taxes was responsible for putting Japanese Americans in interment camps 40 years prior to when reparations were awarded to them?


So you are comparing a relatively contemporaneous system of repayment for property and income loss, issued to less than a 100,000 Japanese-Americans for events which occurred specifically to them and/or within the life times of those involved and their families.... to reparation payments to tens of millions of people, if not more, 3-15 generations removed from the situation at issue (slavery/Jim Crow), before the majority of Americans' ancestors ever arrived in this country?


Yea, ok.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
25989 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:30 pm to
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The reality of the mid-century housing market is that blacks of equal (or better) creditworthiness were not granted access to federally-back/insured mortgages...due explicitly to federal redlining policies. That is to say - even if banks WANTED to lend, they couldn't.


Reparation checks will do ZERO to fix that issue. Handing people a check today will not do anything to solve the issues that were created in the 1900's. Not one single thing.
Posted by Slingin Pickle
Fancy side of the North Shore
Member since Jun 2008
3013 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:30 pm to
If reparations pass, will i FINALLY be allowed to say the N word while singing along to rap songs without being shamed? If so, we can talk...
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10340 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:31 pm to
I can actually get behind a bill that was truly fair.

-Reparations would have to be open to everyone
-Each applicant would have to register and meet a criteria that would include proof that the government enslaved you
-Any amounts owed would be reduced by any amount a you received from the government for any program that is non merit based (ie snap, welfare, Bailout money etc)
-You sign a waiver that you will stfu about being oppressed

This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 8:18 pm
Posted by BigB123
Texas
Member since Dec 2018
985 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:31 pm to
I’m fine with it. There are over 600 billionaires in the US with a net worth over $3.4 trillion. Make a one time wealth tax of 50% and give it all to black people / communities. Half those billionaires are probably nitwit Democrats anyway so it will serve to educate them about caving to socialist mobs.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17768 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:32 pm to
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Reparations were paid to Japanese. Period.


Honest question - who got paid? All Japanese? Did their descedents get paid? Or was it only Japanese that were actually held in the camps?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67621 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:33 pm to
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But who has to pay............?



It's a negative number.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11066 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:33 pm to
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That's a weird non-sequitur. Reparations were paid to Japanese. Period. By a cross-section of taxpayers that wasn't equal to the taxpayers that were around when they were interned. Period.



So the disparities between Japanese Americans and African American household wealth are entirely driven by the direct reperations received for their enslavement in the '40s in the '90s?

Wiki

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The act granted each surviving internee about US$20,000 in compensation (or, $40,000 after inflation-adjustment in 2016 dollars), with payments beginning in 1990.


So if that's your case do you want to quantify what the average person in poverty receives on an annual basis in perpetuity in inflation adjusted dollars? (This is obviously overly simplified because people typcially only live under the poverty line for a few months)

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due explicitly to federal redlining policies. That is to say - even if banks WANTED to lend, they couldn't.


Refer to chart. Those rules were written out of law in 1968. How is it possible that homeownership rates fell preceding that date?

Y'all can keep pretending the systemic ghost is still real but all you're really doing is identifying where african americans have unequal outcomes with other cutltures that have been treated with the same prejudice and racism that a majority of immigrant families dealt with and overcame. But that's alright, keep fighting the good fight, I'm sure it will improve with just a little more money and a little less accountability
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:34 pm to
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since US money is worth nothing anymore, i'd be willing to support Congress putting together $2-3T if it means the whole racism thing dies with it


Doesn't work like that. Obama was going to solve it, statues coming down, community investment, etc...

The only way I will support reparations is if they include a one way ticket to an Africa country of the recipient's choice and no opportunity of return. Not even as a tourist.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 3:54 pm
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